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[00:00.000 --> 00:06.000]  UNDER THE SAME SKY
[00:30.000 --> 00:40.000]  We are going to talk about the next president, Helena Aguirre and Fabian Núñez.
[00:40.000 --> 00:43.000]  Today we are going to talk about three members of the Univision.
[00:43.000 --> 00:48.000]  Blanca Rosa Vilches, who is in New York, Edgar Muñoz, who is in Mexico City,
[00:48.000 --> 00:51.000]  and María Antonita Collins, who has not stopped traveling everywhere,
[00:51.000 --> 00:54.000]  but who has been in Alabama for a long time.
[00:54.000 --> 01:00.000]  We are going to talk about the best and worst of 2011 and the next elections in the United States,
[01:00.000 --> 01:03.000]  Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic,
[01:03.000 --> 01:09.000]  and of course the next trip of the Pope, Benedict XVI, to Mexico and Cuba.
[01:09.000 --> 01:13.000]  And it has not gone very well with the segment called Your Point in three words.
[01:13.000 --> 01:19.000]  And so, in three words, we will see what to expect for 2012.
[01:19.000 --> 01:31.000]  Let's start.
[01:31.000 --> 01:36.000]  Let's go to the point with Jorge Ramos.
[01:36.000 --> 01:39.000]  Let's go to the point. This is our first program of 2012,
[01:39.000 --> 01:43.000]  and therefore we are going to take a look at what we can expect here in the United States and Latin America.
[01:43.000 --> 01:46.000]  But if you like, let's start with the United States.
[01:46.000 --> 01:52.000]  The elections seem to dominate everything, Democrats and Republicans simply do not agree on anything.
[01:52.000 --> 01:56.000]  And the question is, if nothing will happen during 11 months until the elections.
[01:56.000 --> 02:00.000]  To talk about all this, the Democratic congresswoman from California, Javier Becerra,
[02:00.000 --> 02:02.000]  accompanies us via satellite from Washington,
[02:02.000 --> 02:05.000]  and the Republican congresswoman from Florida, Ileana Roslett.
[02:05.000 --> 02:07.000]  Thank you for being here with us.
[02:07.000 --> 02:09.000]  Congresswoman Becerra, I would like to start with you.
[02:09.000 --> 02:10.000]  Happy New Year.
[02:10.000 --> 02:11.000]  Happy New Year.
[02:11.000 --> 02:16.000]  Are you really not going to agree on anything, Republicans and Democrats?
[02:16.000 --> 02:22.000]  Are we going to continue extending and extending it all until the November elections?
[02:22.000 --> 02:29.000]  It seems that this is the plan of the Republicans to conduct business here in that way, unfortunately.
[02:29.000 --> 02:32.000]  Those who lose are the ones who try to work in this country.
[02:32.000 --> 02:35.000]  But there is a way to unite us.
[02:35.000 --> 02:41.000]  Ileana and I have joined us several times on very important issues, immigration,
[02:41.000 --> 02:44.000]  creating a Latino museum here in Washington, D.C.
[02:44.000 --> 02:46.000]  We are partners in that kind of initiative.
[02:46.000 --> 02:49.000]  It can be done that way, but one has to want to do it.
[02:49.000 --> 02:55.000]  And it seems that at this moment the Republican Party is not ready to work with President Obama.
[02:55.000 --> 02:58.000]  It seems to me, and it is very clear that you two have worked together.
[02:58.000 --> 03:00.000]  That is why we have invited you.
[03:00.000 --> 03:06.000]  Sometimes it gives the impression that the Republican Party has made the calculation that we are not going to let President Obama
[03:06.000 --> 03:10.000]  have any trouble so that he does not go to vote, and therefore we do not want to cooperate at all.
[03:10.000 --> 03:12.000]  This appreciation is fair.
[03:12.000 --> 03:19.000]  Well, I think this analysis is not fair, because what we are against as a party
[03:19.000 --> 03:26.000]  is the politics of what President Obama wants to do, which is to raise taxes,
[03:26.000 --> 03:35.000]  more regulation of small businesses, does not want to reform the complex system of taxes in the United States.
[03:35.000 --> 03:43.000]  So, to us, not to those proposals and to advance our proposals, people say,
[03:43.000 --> 03:46.000]  well, you want to attack President Obama.
[03:46.000 --> 03:51.000]  No, what we want is to restore the economy, create jobs,
[03:51.000 --> 03:57.000]  and we have a terrible economic situation in the United States, and it is the fault of President Obama,
[03:57.000 --> 04:06.000]  but we, Republicans and Democrats, have to join us because the public is disgusted with all of us, without exception.
[04:06.000 --> 04:11.000]  What is the argument for the President of the United States to choose Barack Obama?
[04:11.000 --> 04:13.000]  What has President Barack Obama done well?
[04:13.000 --> 04:20.000]  President Obama has to do what he is doing, is to fight, as he teaches them at this moment,
[04:20.000 --> 04:22.000]  to fight for the middle class.
[04:22.000 --> 04:28.000]  We see the shame that this battle with the Republicans in the House of Representatives was
[04:28.000 --> 04:34.000]  to pass a cut in taxes for 160 million workers in this country.
[04:34.000 --> 04:41.000]  The President will not let that matter go, just as he will not let the issue of reforming immigration laws,
[04:41.000 --> 04:45.000]  even if the Republicans reject an effort to do so.
[04:45.000 --> 04:49.000]  What we see is that the President only has to move forward,
[04:49.000 --> 04:54.000]  he has to arrive at the moment when the Republicans are going to work with him.
[04:54.000 --> 04:57.000]  What President Barack Obama has not done well?
[04:57.000 --> 04:58.000]  Well, the economy.
[04:58.000 --> 05:04.000]  He said that, first, when this plan happened, which was a total failure,
[05:04.000 --> 05:11.000]  the stimulus plan that cost you, how much money? It is that every day is a higher astronomical figure.
[05:11.000 --> 05:17.000]  It was a tremendous failure, it did not stimulate the economy, it did not create new jobs, and he said...
[05:17.000 --> 05:21.000]  But this was not the case of President George W. Bush, a terrible economic crisis.
[05:21.000 --> 05:26.000]  Well, but every president has to take responsibility.
[05:26.000 --> 05:32.000]  I think that after three and a half years of President Obama, it is time to say,
[05:32.000 --> 05:35.000]  look, I am the one who has created the problem.
[05:35.000 --> 05:41.000]  He is the one who tried to pass and passed the stimulus plan that did not create new jobs.
[05:41.000 --> 05:46.000]  He is the one who said that we were not going to have a rate of more than 8% unemployment.
[05:46.000 --> 05:52.000]  We are at 9, 10, here in the south of Florida, sometimes we have reached more than 13%.
[05:52.000 --> 05:55.000]  If the economy does not improve, and hopefully it improves,
[05:55.000 --> 06:00.000]  I do not see how President Obama is going to leave the public to say,
[06:00.000 --> 06:05.000]  I deserve to be elected to continue this tragedy of the economy.
[06:05.000 --> 06:07.000]  Congresswoman Becerra, it is no longer the economy of President Barack Obama,
[06:07.000 --> 06:09.000]  it is true that he created a terrible economic crisis,
[06:09.000 --> 06:13.000]  but after three years, it is no longer the responsibility of President Barack Obama,
[06:13.000 --> 06:16.000]  if things are going well or not.
[06:16.000 --> 06:19.000]  The president is the one who directs, of course.
[06:19.000 --> 06:24.000]  But we have to remember, the month he took the keys of the White House,
[06:24.000 --> 06:33.000]  the economy of this country lost almost 800,000 jobs in that month of January 2009,
[06:33.000 --> 06:35.000]  during George Bush's time.
[06:35.000 --> 06:40.000]  In the last three years, we have created 3 million new jobs,
[06:40.000 --> 06:43.000]  more than 8 years under President Bush.
[06:43.000 --> 06:47.000]  So President Obama is ready to say, we have not done enough,
[06:47.000 --> 06:51.000]  but we have done something, but to say that nothing has been done
[06:51.000 --> 06:56.000]  is not to talk about reality, and what we need to do is to advance.
[06:56.000 --> 06:58.000]  And that is what I think the president says,
[06:58.000 --> 07:02.000]  I do not care what politicians say or the political words they make,
[07:02.000 --> 07:06.000]  I am going to advance for the people so that they can work.
[07:06.000 --> 07:10.000]  Well, I agree that we should not judge it by its words,
[07:10.000 --> 07:12.000]  I want to judge it by its facts.
[07:12.000 --> 07:17.000]  The facts are that we have a disastrous economy,
[07:17.000 --> 07:23.000]  that we are not creating jobs, that we are recording terrible taxes to small traders,
[07:23.000 --> 07:26.000]  that he passed a health reform law,
[07:26.000 --> 07:30.000]  that he was going to have so much bureaucracy and so much taxes,
[07:30.000 --> 07:33.000]  that we have tried to give much back to that.
[07:33.000 --> 07:37.000]  So I hope he makes his campaign based on the stimulus plan,
[07:37.000 --> 07:41.000]  the health reform plan, and on immigration.
[07:41.000 --> 07:44.000]  What is he going to tell the Latin community?
[07:44.000 --> 07:47.000]  Is he still going to talk about hope and change?
[07:47.000 --> 07:51.000]  Where is what he has done in those years?
[07:51.000 --> 07:55.000]  Where is the leadership of President Obama with these issues?
[07:55.000 --> 07:58.000]  I would like to finish by giving each one of you the opportunity to think about
[07:58.000 --> 08:01.000]  what is going to happen in 2012 with Grecia Tabecerra.
[08:01.000 --> 08:03.000]  What do you expect for 2012?
[08:03.000 --> 08:06.000]  Will we continue to see more Republicans and Democrats fighting?
[08:06.000 --> 08:08.000]  Everything will be concentrated in the presidential campaign.
[08:08.000 --> 08:11.000]  How do you see 2012?
[08:11.000 --> 08:14.000]  I think the people have woken up.
[08:14.000 --> 08:18.000]  I don't think we will ever see a people who let the richest people in this country
[08:18.000 --> 08:24.000]  receive tax cuts while those who work, the Republicans, don't say anything.
[08:24.000 --> 08:30.000]  I think 99% of what they are called have been raised
[08:30.000 --> 08:33.000]  and I think that is going to help us accomplish things,
[08:33.000 --> 08:36.000]  because without that, politicians only fight.
[08:36.000 --> 08:40.000]  But at this moment, it is serious where we need to create more jobs.
[08:40.000 --> 08:43.000]  This is the moment to join us with the president.
[08:43.000 --> 08:47.000]  What he has said, for me, the most important thing is to see the middle class get up.
[08:47.000 --> 08:52.000]  If we do that, this country will continue to be the most important country in the world.
[08:52.000 --> 08:55.000]  Comrade Roslet, I would like to finish with you.
[08:55.000 --> 08:58.000]  It is not enough what President Obama has done at the level of external relations.
[08:58.000 --> 09:03.000]  Osama Bin Laden's death, the Libyan leader's death, the end of the war in Iraq.
[09:03.000 --> 09:05.000]  They are not enough achievements.
[09:05.000 --> 09:09.000]  I congratulate him because those are achievements from the Armed Forces.
[09:09.000 --> 09:15.000]  And I think it is correct when President Obama continued with the leadership
[09:15.000 --> 09:20.000]  and the politics of George W. Bush to end with these terrorists.
[09:20.000 --> 09:23.000]  Remember that President Obama, when he was senator,
[09:23.000 --> 09:27.000]  was voting against all these measures of President Bush.
[09:27.000 --> 09:31.000]  But when he assumed the presidency, he realized all the dangers.
[09:31.000 --> 09:34.000]  He continued that politics of George W. Bush
[09:34.000 --> 09:40.000]  thanks to a 100% patriotic and brave military force.
[09:40.000 --> 09:42.000]  We have achieved all these things.
[09:42.000 --> 09:45.000]  But giving all these achievements to Obama
[09:45.000 --> 09:49.000]  is removing all the credit to those who deserve that credit,
[09:49.000 --> 09:52.000]  which is the Armed Forces thanks to them.
[09:52.000 --> 09:56.000]  Lena Roslet, thank you both very much for being with us.
[09:56.000 --> 09:59.000]  I would like to remind you that you were with us a year ago.
[09:59.000 --> 10:00.000]  A tradition.
[10:00.000 --> 10:02.000]  It is a tradition. Thank you for this continuity.
[10:02.000 --> 10:04.000]  Thank you, Javier.
[10:04.000 --> 10:05.000]  Happy.
[10:05.000 --> 10:07.000]  Likewise, Ilyana. Happy to all of you.
[10:07.000 --> 10:10.000]  Actually, and I would like to say it publicly,
[10:10.000 --> 10:12.000]  they are an example, despite what we see in Washington,
[10:12.000 --> 10:16.000]  an example of how a Democrat and a Republican can work together.
[10:16.000 --> 10:17.000]  I respect them a lot.
[10:17.000 --> 10:19.000]  They are intelligent people.
[10:19.000 --> 10:21.000]  One of the leaders of the Democratic Party.
[10:21.000 --> 10:23.000]  We need more Javier Becerras.
[10:23.000 --> 10:25.000]  Thank you both. I thank you very much.
[10:25.000 --> 10:26.000]  Colleague.
[10:26.000 --> 10:27.000]  Colleague.
[10:27.000 --> 10:28.000]  Thank you.
[10:28.000 --> 10:32.000]  Let's go to Iowa, where there are elections in March,
[10:32.000 --> 10:34.000]  but no one wins with taxes, only with votes,
[10:34.000 --> 10:36.000]  and there are all the Republican candidates.
[10:36.000 --> 10:39.000]  We also have an analysis of how 2012 looks like with other voices.
[10:39.000 --> 11:07.000]  We'll be right back.
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[13:50.000 --> 13:55.000]  This Tuesday, there are the first elections or electoral assemblies in Iowa
[13:55.000 --> 13:58.000]  and they are determined to find out which Republican candidate will be placed as a pointer.
[13:58.000 --> 14:00.000]  So far, everything we've seen has been surveys.
[14:00.000 --> 14:03.000]  The surveys take place in a fight between Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney
[14:03.000 --> 14:05.000]  with Ron Paul, making him a shadow.
[14:05.000 --> 14:11.000]  But no one wins with surveys, but with votes. And that's exactly what will happen tomorrow in Iowa.
[14:11.000 --> 14:13.000]  This is Luis Mejid.
[14:23.000 --> 14:27.000]  On Tuesday, this small state of three million people in the center of the country
[14:27.000 --> 14:30.000]  will show again how big its political influence is.
[14:30.000 --> 14:35.000]  With the electoral assemblies in Iowa, the season of primaries begins
[14:35.000 --> 14:39.000]  and the Republican candidate who wins here also gets the attention of the whole country.
[14:39.000 --> 14:43.000]  The economic resources immediately begin to reach them
[14:43.000 --> 14:47.000]  because winning in Iowa means that the people who write the checks,
[14:47.000 --> 14:50.000]  the organizations that contribute to the campaigns,
[14:50.000 --> 14:56.000]  see a person who can possibly be the candidate with victory.
[14:56.000 --> 15:00.000]  The Hispanics are the group that is growing faster in the state.
[15:00.000 --> 15:04.000]  They are 5% of the population, but the majority are Democrats
[15:04.000 --> 15:08.000]  and in the electoral assemblies of Democrats, Barack Obama is the only candidate.
[15:08.000 --> 15:12.000]  In the Republicans, where voters really have to choose a candidate,
[15:12.000 --> 15:14.000]  the influence will be minimal.
[15:14.000 --> 15:19.000]  Lorena López, editor of the press in Iowa, says that there is also a topic that worries them.
[15:19.000 --> 15:22.000]  Migratory reform is essential.
[15:22.000 --> 15:28.000]  And that is not that Latinos are not interested in other topics,
[15:28.000 --> 15:33.000]  but migratory reform, because we are related in one way or another
[15:33.000 --> 15:35.000]  with a person who does not have paper.
[15:35.000 --> 15:39.000]  For its great importance, electoral is a small geographical size.
[15:39.000 --> 15:43.000]  In Iowa, politics is more intimate and personal than in other parts of the nation.
[15:43.000 --> 15:47.000]  Here, voters of the state like to know each other,
[15:47.000 --> 15:50.000]  candidates and give them the hand before making a decision.
[15:50.000 --> 15:54.000]  But this year's campaign has been different from others in the past.
[15:54.000 --> 15:57.000]  More than 16 debates have been televised,
[15:57.000 --> 15:59.000]  without counting smaller forums,
[15:59.000 --> 16:02.000]  they have determined the good or the bad fortune of the candidates.
[16:02.000 --> 16:07.000]  The debates this season for precandidates
[16:07.000 --> 16:12.000]  have been the most important in the last 41 years
[16:12.000 --> 16:15.000]  that I have studied the political process.
[16:15.000 --> 16:18.000]  This is the state where the path to the White House begins,
[16:18.000 --> 16:22.000]  in the Moinayo-Hua-Luis-Megid, Univision.
[16:22.000 --> 16:25.000]  And now, to analyze how 2012 comes along with us,
[16:25.000 --> 16:27.000]  two political analysts from the United Nations,
[16:27.000 --> 16:29.000]  Helena Guirrez, a journalist and analyst,
[16:29.000 --> 16:31.000]  a member of more than a dozen community organizations
[16:31.000 --> 16:35.000]  linked all their lives with the American Diary in the south of Florida,
[16:35.000 --> 16:39.000]  is in charge of a very popular radio program and then Republican.
[16:39.000 --> 16:41.000]  And also, Fabián Núñez is with us,
[16:41.000 --> 16:43.000]  who was the leader of the California Assembly,
[16:43.000 --> 16:46.000]  who, due to local laws, was forbidden to choose in his position,
[16:46.000 --> 16:48.000]  and now, as an analyst, he joins us here in Univision.
[16:48.000 --> 16:50.000]  Thank you very much for being here with us.
[16:50.000 --> 16:52.000]  And Helena, I would like to start with you.
[16:52.000 --> 16:55.000]  What is going to happen with the Republican candidates?
[16:55.000 --> 16:58.000]  Are we really seeing Knuth Gingrich and Amit Romney
[16:58.000 --> 17:00.000]  fighting for the Republican candidacy?
[17:00.000 --> 17:01.000]  There may be more surprises.
[17:01.000 --> 17:03.000]  I think there may be more surprises.
[17:03.000 --> 17:05.000]  What we are going to see begins on January 3.
[17:05.000 --> 17:08.000]  We are going to see the Caucus or the Iowa Assembly,
[17:08.000 --> 17:10.000]  where the significant ones will be that
[17:10.000 --> 17:12.000]  they are going to eliminate candidates.
[17:12.000 --> 17:16.000]  Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum, the same governor of Texas,
[17:16.000 --> 17:19.000]  Rick Perry, have to make some very important points
[17:19.000 --> 17:21.000]  to remain relevant in the campaign.
[17:21.000 --> 17:23.000]  If they don't, they have to give up.
[17:23.000 --> 17:26.000]  If they don't have money or organization,
[17:26.000 --> 17:29.000]  Rick Perry, in that case, would be the exception.
[17:29.000 --> 17:31.000]  What we are seeing in the polls is that
[17:31.000 --> 17:34.000]  a state like Iowa, an assembly like Iowa,
[17:34.000 --> 17:37.000]  candidates who don't reflect what could be the majority
[17:37.000 --> 17:40.000]  in other states, if they have great possibilities,
[17:40.000 --> 17:43.000]  in this case, the libertarian Ron Paul,
[17:43.000 --> 17:46.000]  who has a very significant score,
[17:46.000 --> 17:50.000]  has a very good organization in several states.
[17:50.000 --> 17:54.000]  But Iowa doesn't mean much about what you can say
[17:54.000 --> 17:56.000]  about what could happen in other states.
[17:56.000 --> 17:58.000]  First of all, the Caucus is an assembly
[17:58.000 --> 18:01.000]  that has very different rules.
[18:01.000 --> 18:03.000]  You arrive at 7 o'clock at night,
[18:03.000 --> 18:05.000]  you have to be inscribed.
[18:05.000 --> 18:07.000]  I'm going to give you some statistics.
[18:07.000 --> 18:11.000]  For example, in 2008, only 2% of those who were inscribed
[18:11.000 --> 18:13.000]  to vote for Republicans supported the winner,
[18:13.000 --> 18:15.000]  who at that time was Hockoby.
[18:15.000 --> 18:18.000]  69% lived in rural areas,
[18:18.000 --> 18:21.000]  56% were men.
[18:21.000 --> 18:23.000]  That reflects the Republican Party.
[18:23.000 --> 18:25.000]  I want to see now the point of view of a Democrat, Fabian,
[18:25.000 --> 18:28.000]  to see how you are seeing Republican candidates.
[18:28.000 --> 18:30.000]  Do you really think that the fight between
[18:30.000 --> 18:33.000]  Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney is nothing more?
[18:33.000 --> 18:37.000]  Well, I think that the Caucus assemblies
[18:37.000 --> 18:41.000]  will prove that Newt Gingrich has the support
[18:41.000 --> 18:43.000]  that he needs.
[18:43.000 --> 18:45.000]  It seems that his support is declining.
[18:45.000 --> 18:47.000]  I think that Ron Paul is the one who has more
[18:47.000 --> 18:50.000]  the possibility of winning the assemblies in Iowa.
[18:50.000 --> 18:54.000]  But what has been shown in all these debates
[18:54.000 --> 18:57.000]  of Republican candidates is that they have gone
[18:57.000 --> 19:02.000]  more and more to the right in their political positions,
[19:02.000 --> 19:04.000]  even in the immigrant position,
[19:04.000 --> 19:06.000]  which I imagine we are going to discuss later.
[19:06.000 --> 19:11.000]  But also in issues of the treatment
[19:11.000 --> 19:14.000]  of how the country would handle it,
[19:14.000 --> 19:17.000]  who is the person who is going to criticize
[19:17.000 --> 19:19.000]  more to President Obama,
[19:19.000 --> 19:23.000]  and has gone more and more negative in these debates,
[19:23.000 --> 19:26.000]  to the point that Republican voters are not
[19:26.000 --> 19:29.000]  decided on who is going to be the candidate
[19:29.000 --> 19:32.000]  who is going to represent them against President Obama
[19:32.000 --> 19:33.000]  in November's election.
[19:33.000 --> 19:35.000]  Fabiani, as you can see,
[19:35.000 --> 19:37.000]  who can win President Barack Obama?
[19:37.000 --> 19:39.000]  You have realized that according to the polls
[19:39.000 --> 19:41.000]  Newt Gingrich could not win, but that Mitt Romney
[19:41.000 --> 19:43.000]  might be like that?
[19:43.000 --> 19:46.000]  Well, the problem with Mitt Romney
[19:46.000 --> 19:50.000]  is that Mitt Romney has 25% of the vote
[19:50.000 --> 19:52.000]  in all the polls.
[19:52.000 --> 19:54.000]  He does not go up 25% of the vote
[19:54.000 --> 19:56.000]  of Republican voters.
[19:56.000 --> 19:59.000]  And from there on, 75% of them
[19:59.000 --> 20:01.000]  do not want him as a candidate.
[20:01.000 --> 20:03.000]  So right now there is a crisis
[20:03.000 --> 20:05.000]  inside the Republican Party
[20:05.000 --> 20:08.000]  because he has not found a candidate
[20:08.000 --> 20:11.000]  who can be aligned well
[20:11.000 --> 20:13.000]  with the tastes of Republican voters.
[20:13.000 --> 20:15.000]  I would like to ask both of you
[20:15.000 --> 20:17.000]  about the importance of the Hispanic vote.
[20:17.000 --> 20:19.000]  We always believe that these two million
[20:19.000 --> 20:21.000]  of Hispanic voters are going to be fundamental,
[20:21.000 --> 20:23.000]  but really, the Hispanics are going to have
[20:23.000 --> 20:25.000]  some weight in these elections.
[20:25.000 --> 20:27.000]  Can we choose the next president of the United States
[20:27.000 --> 20:29.000]  or do we believe in him a lot?
[20:29.000 --> 20:31.000]  No, I'm going to tell you, there really is a possibility.
[20:31.000 --> 20:33.000]  The one who was the architect of the politics
[20:33.000 --> 20:35.000]  of George W. Bush Carl Rove
[20:35.000 --> 20:37.000]  was the one who discovered that
[20:37.000 --> 20:39.000]  the Republican Party
[20:39.000 --> 20:41.000]  can win decisively
[20:41.000 --> 20:43.000]  if it incorporates and removes
[20:43.000 --> 20:45.000]  from the Democratic Party
[20:45.000 --> 20:47.000]  Hispanic votes that have been key.
[20:47.000 --> 20:49.000]  In several districts.
[20:49.000 --> 20:51.000]  You really need 42, 43%.
[20:51.000 --> 20:52.000]  To win.
[20:52.000 --> 20:54.000]  Currently you have in several districts
[20:54.000 --> 20:56.000]  a 32% that are Republican,
[20:56.000 --> 20:58.000]  Republican Hispanics.
[20:58.000 --> 21:00.000]  Really, to be able to win,
[21:00.000 --> 21:02.000]  you have to take 10% more or less,
[21:02.000 --> 21:04.000]  depending on the district,
[21:04.000 --> 21:06.000]  to be able to have the majority
[21:06.000 --> 21:07.000]  in a state.
[21:07.000 --> 21:08.000]  I think that's important.
[21:08.000 --> 21:10.000]  Something very interesting has happened
[21:10.000 --> 21:12.000]  in recent months.
[21:12.000 --> 21:14.000]  I agree with Fabian
[21:14.000 --> 21:16.000]  about the dilemma that New King
[21:16.000 --> 21:18.000]  Bridge presents for the party,
[21:18.000 --> 21:20.000]  but the positive of New King Bridge
[21:20.000 --> 21:22.000]  for the Republican Party is that
[21:22.000 --> 21:24.000]  the immigration reform
[21:24.000 --> 21:26.000]  proposes a plan that has been
[21:26.000 --> 21:28.000]  censored that incorporates a solution
[21:28.000 --> 21:30.000]  for the legalization
[21:30.000 --> 21:32.000]  of undocumented people.
[21:32.000 --> 21:34.000]  Without giving them the possibility.
[21:34.000 --> 21:36.000]  Without giving them the possibility of voting.
[21:36.000 --> 21:38.000]  And if New King Bridge does not win the nomination,
[21:38.000 --> 21:40.000]  it will not be for its position
[21:40.000 --> 21:42.000]  on the immigration reform,
[21:42.000 --> 21:44.000]  it would perhaps be for supporting
[21:44.000 --> 21:46.000]  Freddie Mac.
[21:46.000 --> 21:48.000]  Fabian, I wanted to ask you.
[21:48.000 --> 21:50.000]  You mentioned the importance
[21:50.000 --> 21:52.000]  of voting against Hispanics.
[21:52.000 --> 21:54.000]  Can the Republican Party
[21:54.000 --> 21:56.000]  win, let's say, 35% or 40%
[21:56.000 --> 21:58.000]  of the vote against Hispanics
[21:58.000 --> 22:00.000]  without any kind of flexibility
[22:00.000 --> 22:02.000]  regarding immigration?
[22:02.000 --> 22:04.000]  No, absolutely.
[22:04.000 --> 22:06.000]  Well, if there is no flexibility
[22:06.000 --> 22:08.000]  in immigration,
[22:08.000 --> 22:10.000]  there is no way that the Republican Party
[22:10.000 --> 22:12.000]  can win
[22:12.000 --> 22:14.000]  with the Latin voters.
[22:14.000 --> 22:16.000]  And I say this because in key states,
[22:16.000 --> 22:18.000]  such as the state of Florida,
[22:18.000 --> 22:20.000]  for example,
[22:20.000 --> 22:22.000]  states like Nevada,
[22:22.000 --> 22:24.000]  in these states,
[22:24.000 --> 22:26.000]  Carolina del Norte,
[22:26.000 --> 22:28.000]  in these states
[22:28.000 --> 22:30.000]  it will be very important,
[22:30.000 --> 22:32.000]  although Latinos are not a majority,
[22:32.000 --> 22:34.000]  if 10,000 of them
[22:34.000 --> 22:36.000]  come out to vote
[22:36.000 --> 22:38.000]  and change their vote of the Democratic Party,
[22:38.000 --> 22:40.000]  the Republican Party,
[22:40.000 --> 22:42.000]  they can make the difference
[22:42.000 --> 22:44.000]  in elections
[22:44.000 --> 22:46.000]  where they are very close
[22:46.000 --> 22:48.000]  to the vote of the Republicans
[22:48.000 --> 22:50.000]  versus the Democrats.
[22:50.000 --> 22:52.000]  But the fundamental point
[22:52.000 --> 22:54.000]  in the immigration issue
[22:54.000 --> 22:56.000]  is that, for example, Mitt Romney
[22:56.000 --> 22:58.000]  has gone to the extreme right
[22:58.000 --> 23:00.000]  in the immigration issue
[23:00.000 --> 23:02.000]  where he himself is promoting
[23:02.000 --> 23:04.000]  that Latinos have to take out
[23:04.000 --> 23:06.000]  the undocumented from the country
[23:06.000 --> 23:08.000]  and that they are registered.
[23:08.000 --> 23:10.000]  And I don't know if he is promoting
[23:10.000 --> 23:12.000]  massive deportations
[23:12.000 --> 23:14.000]  or how he pretends
[23:14.000 --> 23:16.000]  to go out of the country
[23:16.000 --> 23:18.000]  and he is a candidate
[23:18.000 --> 23:20.000]  who is viable for the president
[23:20.000 --> 23:22.000]  of the United States.
[23:22.000 --> 23:24.000]  I think this kind of policy is very dangerous
[23:24.000 --> 23:26.000]  for the Republicans
[23:26.000 --> 23:28.000]  in terms of their relationship
[23:28.000 --> 23:30.000]  with the Latino voter.
[23:30.000 --> 23:32.000]  Although I agree that Gingrich
[23:32.000 --> 23:34.000]  has changed his position a little,
[23:34.000 --> 23:36.000]  but I still think that Romney
[23:36.000 --> 23:38.000]  is someone who thinks that
[23:38.000 --> 23:40.000]  going to the extreme right
[23:40.000 --> 23:42.000]  against immigrants
[23:42.000 --> 23:44.000]  in a general election
[23:44.000 --> 23:46.000]  I would like to finish with this
[23:46.000 --> 23:48.000]  and ask one of them
[23:48.000 --> 23:50.000]  what the president of Barack Obama should do
[23:50.000 --> 23:52.000]  if he is looking for a re-election
[23:52.000 --> 23:54.000]  If you had it, what would you tell him?
[23:54.000 --> 23:56.000]  Well, I think that today he is doing it well
[23:56.000 --> 23:58.000]  taking into account that the statistics
[23:58.000 --> 24:00.000]  show that the economy is going
[24:00.000 --> 24:02.000]  slightly to
[24:02.000 --> 24:04.000]  I mean, it is healing
[24:04.000 --> 24:06.000]  we are seeing that there is new construction
[24:06.000 --> 24:08.000]  there is new unemployment
[24:08.000 --> 24:10.000]  is decreasing
[24:10.000 --> 24:12.000]  corporations have to talk
[24:12.000 --> 24:14.000]  about a re-structure
[24:14.000 --> 24:16.000]  in total of how is the system
[24:16.000 --> 24:18.000]  attributable that hurts it
[24:18.000 --> 24:20.000]  this is also something that the Republican Party wants
[24:20.000 --> 24:22.000]  but what is the infrastructure problem
[24:22.000 --> 24:24.000]  that they should not have to do with streets
[24:24.000 --> 24:26.000]  and roads in itself
[24:26.000 --> 24:28.000]  if it does not have to do with the attributable system
[24:28.000 --> 24:30.000]  we are seeing that in Canada, for example
[24:30.000 --> 24:32.000]  they have a corporate tax
[24:32.000 --> 24:34.000]  of 18% and they want to reduce it to 15%
[24:34.000 --> 24:36.000]  the United States has
[24:36.000 --> 24:38.000]  the highest corporate tax
[24:38.000 --> 24:40.000]  we are not going to
[24:40.000 --> 24:42.000]  continue being economy, economy, economy
[24:42.000 --> 24:44.000]  and number two, you have to be careful
[24:44.000 --> 24:46.000]  with the Hispanic voter
[24:46.000 --> 24:48.000]  because he cannot promise a new immigration reform
[24:48.000 --> 24:50.000]  because President Obama said
[24:50.000 --> 24:52.000]  he was going to do it in the first year
[24:52.000 --> 24:54.000]  and he did not do it, I think that the Hispanic
[24:54.000 --> 24:56.000]  has reason to feel rejected
[24:56.000 --> 24:58.000]  by the Democratic Party
[24:58.000 --> 25:00.000]  and Fabiente, I want to finish with you
[25:00.000 --> 25:02.000]  what should the president of Barack Obama do
[25:02.000 --> 25:04.000]  if he is looking for a re-election
[25:04.000 --> 25:06.000]  Well, three things
[25:06.000 --> 25:08.000]  with the domestic economy
[25:08.000 --> 25:10.000]  improve the economy
[25:10.000 --> 25:12.000]  continue reducing
[25:12.000 --> 25:14.000]  the percentage of people
[25:14.000 --> 25:16.000]  who are not currently employed
[25:16.000 --> 25:18.000]  and then focus on education
[25:18.000 --> 25:20.000]  school desertion is a very serious problem
[25:20.000 --> 25:22.000]  in particular in the Latin community
[25:22.000 --> 25:24.000]  but in all communities
[25:24.000 --> 25:26.000]  we have to focus on education
[25:26.000 --> 25:28.000]  and on the construction of jobs
[25:28.000 --> 25:30.000]  I think that those two
[25:30.000 --> 25:32.000]  points are the ones that will help
[25:32.000 --> 25:34.000]  the president to be re-elected
[25:34.000 --> 25:36.000]  once again
[25:36.000 --> 25:38.000]  Thank you for being with us
[25:38.000 --> 25:40.000]  and we will be with you throughout the year
[25:40.000 --> 25:42.000]  Thank you very much
[25:42.000 --> 25:44.000]  Let's take a break
[25:44.000 --> 25:46.000]  The Pope is going to Cuba and Mexico
[25:46.000 --> 25:48.000]  and we are also going to analyze the elections in the United States
[25:48.000 --> 25:50.000]  Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic
[25:50.000 --> 26:14.000]  THE LORD OF THE SKIES
[26:20.000 --> 26:22.000]  I saw the voice
[26:22.000 --> 26:24.000]  that was going around under me
[26:24.000 --> 26:26.000]  Here now, this Tuesday
[26:26.000 --> 26:28.000]  at 9 o'clock
[26:30.000 --> 26:32.000]  This is the history of Chef Boyardy
[26:32.000 --> 26:34.000]  The Italian chef opened
[26:34.000 --> 26:36.000]  his restaurant in Ohio
[26:36.000 --> 26:38.000]  Everyone loved his food
[26:38.000 --> 26:40.000]  They asked him for his recipe
[26:40.000 --> 26:42.000]  Instead, he gave them his pasta and chaman
[26:42.000 --> 26:44.000]  pasta and real meat
[26:44.000 --> 26:46.000]  ripe tomatoes
[26:46.000 --> 26:48.000]  and a single conservative
[26:48.000 --> 26:50.000]  He became famous
[26:50.000 --> 26:52.000]  Hello, I am Chef Boyardy
[26:52.000 --> 26:54.000]  Tradition and dedication
[26:54.000 --> 26:56.000]  for more than 85 years
[26:56.000 --> 26:58.000]  Real ingredients
[26:58.000 --> 27:00.000]  and without a single conservative
[27:02.000 --> 27:04.000]  There are more than half a million applications
[27:04.000 --> 27:06.000]  for the iPhone and we keep counting
[27:06.000 --> 27:08.000]  Applications capable
[27:08.000 --> 27:10.000]  of taking you anywhere
[27:10.000 --> 27:12.000]  and doing anything
[27:12.000 --> 27:14.000]  I could say that there are no limits
[27:14.000 --> 27:16.000]  for what this incredible phone can do
[27:16.000 --> 27:18.000]  So you ask
[27:18.000 --> 27:20.000]  Why limit the iPhone?
[27:20.000 --> 27:22.000]  We
[27:22.000 --> 27:24.000]  We don't do it
[27:24.000 --> 27:26.000]  Real data
[27:26.000 --> 27:28.000]  for your iPhone
[27:28.000 --> 27:48.000]  This is the history of Chef Boyardy
[27:48.000 --> 27:58.000]  This is the history of Chef Boyardy
[27:58.000 --> 28:00.000]  Real ingredients
[28:00.000 --> 28:02.000]  and without a single conservative
[28:02.000 --> 28:04.000]  There are more than half a million applications
[28:04.000 --> 28:06.000]  for the iPhone
[28:06.000 --> 28:08.000]  Real ingredients
[28:08.000 --> 28:10.000]  and without a single conservative
[28:10.000 --> 28:12.000]  There are more than half a million applications
[28:12.000 --> 28:14.000]  for the iPhone
[28:14.000 --> 28:16.000]  Real ingredients
[28:16.000 --> 28:18.000]  International
[28:18.000 --> 28:20.000]  with topics in English and Spanish
[28:20.000 --> 28:22.000]  Brava is the best record
[28:22.000 --> 28:24.000]  for the dance tracks
[28:24.000 --> 28:26.000]  Brava de Paulina Rubio
[28:26.000 --> 28:28.000]  available in all formats
[28:28.000 --> 28:50.000]  www.crafting.com
[28:50.000 --> 28:52.000]  When life is so difficult
[28:52.000 --> 28:54.000]  it's strange that every day
[28:54.000 --> 28:56.000]  7,000 students leave the school
[28:56.000 --> 28:58.000]  to help the students
[28:58.000 --> 29:00.000]  of their community
[29:00.000 --> 29:02.000]  to stay in the school
[29:02.000 --> 29:04.000]  Hello, how are you?
[29:04.000 --> 29:06.000]  Maria Leticia Gomez
[29:06.000 --> 29:08.000]  from our family in Univision 14
[29:08.000 --> 29:10.000]  to your family in home
[29:10.000 --> 29:12.000]  and in Latin America
[29:12.000 --> 29:14.000]  We wish you the best
[29:14.000 --> 29:16.000]  in this season of parties
[29:16.000 --> 29:18.000]  and always, congratulations!
[29:18.000 --> 29:20.000]  Sometimes they could be against you
[29:20.000 --> 29:22.000]  so when you wake up
[29:22.000 --> 29:24.000]  the information every 10 minutes
[29:24.000 --> 29:26.000]  when you wake up at 6 in the morning
[29:26.000 --> 29:28.000]  at Univision 14
[29:28.000 --> 29:30.000]  and at 7 in the future
[29:30.000 --> 29:32.000]  66
[29:32.000 --> 29:34.000]  These are the news
[29:34.000 --> 29:36.000]  to the point
[29:36.000 --> 29:38.000]  A federal agent
[29:38.000 --> 29:40.000]  was brutally shot
[29:40.000 --> 29:42.000]  during a armed robbery
[29:42.000 --> 29:44.000]  in a Long Island pharmacy
[29:44.000 --> 29:46.000]  in New York. How about you, Maria?
[29:46.000 --> 29:48.000]  Let's go to the point of the news
[29:48.000 --> 29:50.000]  The Republicans are not yet
[29:50.000 --> 29:52.000]  decided by a candidate
[29:52.000 --> 29:54.000]  while Mitt Romney
[29:54.000 --> 29:56.000]  is the head of the investigation
[29:56.000 --> 29:58.000]  Alabama State, Georgia
[29:58.000 --> 30:00.000]  and South Carolina
[30:00.000 --> 30:02.000]  start in 2012
[30:02.000 --> 30:04.000]  with the entry into the new
[30:04.000 --> 30:06.000]  anti-immigrant laws this January
[30:06.000 --> 30:08.000]  The measures require the companies
[30:08.000 --> 30:10.000]  of those states to verify
[30:10.000 --> 30:12.000]  mainly the migratory status of their employees
[30:12.000 --> 30:14.000]  The last 10 years
[30:14.000 --> 30:16.000]  are considered the safest
[30:16.000 --> 30:18.000]  in the history of the US commercial aviation
[30:18.000 --> 30:20.000]  according to a data analysis
[30:20.000 --> 30:22.000]  carried out by the Associated Press
[30:22.000 --> 30:24.000]  Let's go back to the discussion
[30:24.000 --> 30:26.000]  and the debate with Jorge Ramos
[30:26.000 --> 30:28.000]  Good morning
[30:36.000 --> 30:38.000]  This is one of the segments
[30:38.000 --> 30:40.000]  that I enjoyed the most this year
[30:40.000 --> 30:42.000]  because there are three colleagues
[30:42.000 --> 30:44.000]  from Univision. Maria Antonieta Collin
[30:44.000 --> 30:46.000]  returned to this chain
[30:46.000 --> 30:48.000]  and from where she should have never been
[30:48.000 --> 30:50.000]  Thank you, Jorge. Thank you
[30:50.000 --> 30:52.000]  It is with us, Blanca Rosabilces
[30:52.000 --> 30:54.000]  who has covered the city of New York
[30:54.000 --> 30:56.000]  with very little and with a sense of consistency
[30:56.000 --> 30:58.000]  that it is difficult to find in that great urban
[30:58.000 --> 31:00.000]  Thank you for being here
[31:00.000 --> 31:02.000]  And Edgar Muñoz has had to cover Mexico
[31:02.000 --> 31:04.000]  in one of the most bloody periods
[31:04.000 --> 31:06.000]  since the Revolution of 1910
[31:06.000 --> 31:08.000]  So thank you for being here
[31:08.000 --> 31:10.000]  We have two segments with you
[31:10.000 --> 31:12.000]  I would like to start asking
[31:12.000 --> 31:14.000]  each one of you
[31:14.000 --> 31:16.000]  about the most important thing in 2011
[31:16.000 --> 31:18.000]  Maria Antonieta has undoubtedly
[31:18.000 --> 31:20.000]  covered these impressive marches
[31:20.000 --> 31:22.000]  in Alabama
[31:22.000 --> 31:24.000]  Alabama, the Alabama that passed things
[31:24.000 --> 31:26.000]  because no one thought they were going to pass
[31:26.000 --> 31:28.000]  there after Arizona
[31:28.000 --> 31:30.000]  People fell asleep
[31:30.000 --> 31:32.000]  The same activists told us this week
[31:32.000 --> 31:34.000]  Jorge, we never thought it would happen
[31:34.000 --> 31:36.000]  We did not organize
[31:36.000 --> 31:38.000]  and Alabama was left alone
[31:38.000 --> 31:40.000]  and 200,000 Hispanics, at least
[31:40.000 --> 31:42.000]  suddenly began to live
[31:42.000 --> 31:44.000]  the unimaginable nightmare
[31:44.000 --> 31:46.000]  that the police, even us
[31:46.000 --> 31:48.000]  as Hispanics
[31:48.000 --> 31:50.000]  journalists, we have to bring the passport
[31:50.000 --> 31:52.000]  even one who is afraid to stop you
[31:52.000 --> 31:54.000]  and after seeing those people
[31:54.000 --> 31:56.000]  who have to take them to buses
[31:56.000 --> 31:58.000]  that the supermarkets are taking them
[31:58.000 --> 32:00.000]  to buses and trucks
[32:00.000 --> 32:02.000]  to buy their food
[32:02.000 --> 32:04.000]  mothers who are afraid to go to the hospital
[32:04.000 --> 32:06.000]  and they keep drinking tea
[32:06.000 --> 32:08.000]  and herbal medicines
[32:08.000 --> 32:10.000]  because they do not have money
[32:10.000 --> 32:12.000]  How long have you been living in the United States?
[32:12.000 --> 32:14.000]  33 years
[32:14.000 --> 32:16.000]  Have you ever seen something like this?
[32:16.000 --> 32:18.000]  Never, and we live
[32:18.000 --> 32:20.000]  you and me, the time of California
[32:20.000 --> 32:22.000]  when California fought
[32:22.000 --> 32:24.000]  and we lived the 86th amnesty
[32:24.000 --> 32:26.000]  and we lived everything that was
[32:26.000 --> 32:28.000]  but never anything like this
[32:28.000 --> 32:30.000]  Never, Jorge, Alabama is the great lesson
[32:30.000 --> 32:32.000]  of what it means
[32:32.000 --> 32:34.000]  in a state with a deep historical roots
[32:34.000 --> 32:36.000]  about the struggle of civil rights
[32:36.000 --> 32:38.000]  to repeat it again
[32:38.000 --> 32:40.000]  And besides, if we are not talking about
[32:40.000 --> 32:42.000]  this kind of laws
[32:42.000 --> 32:44.000]  instead of being talking about something positive
[32:44.000 --> 32:46.000]  for 11 million undocumented people
[32:46.000 --> 32:48.000]  And as a judge said
[32:48.000 --> 32:50.000]  he has stopped the license
[32:50.000 --> 32:52.000]  to mobile houses and cars
[32:52.000 --> 32:54.000]  he said something that caught my attention
[32:54.000 --> 32:56.000]  He has discovered that this law is focused on
[32:56.000 --> 32:58.000]  a Hispanic group in general
[32:58.000 --> 33:00.000]  and immigration has mixed it
[33:00.000 --> 33:02.000]  Blanca Rosa Alchas, what is the most important thing
[33:02.000 --> 33:04.000]  for you in 2011?
[33:04.000 --> 33:06.000]  What do you highlight in New York?
[33:06.000 --> 33:08.000]  There were several things
[33:08.000 --> 33:10.000]  in May, as we all remember
[33:10.000 --> 33:12.000]  the death of Osama Bin Laden
[33:12.000 --> 33:14.000]  the fact of being in Times Square
[33:14.000 --> 33:16.000]  seeing the feeling that
[33:16.000 --> 33:18.000]  is traditionally used for very important news
[33:18.000 --> 33:20.000]  the reaction
[33:20.000 --> 33:22.000]  that it was a mixture
[33:22.000 --> 33:24.000]  on one side you saw this
[33:24.000 --> 33:26.000]  a person who has caused so much pain
[33:26.000 --> 33:28.000]  not only in New York, but all the United States
[33:28.000 --> 33:30.000]  kill Osama Bin Laden, execute Osama Bin Laden
[33:30.000 --> 33:32.000]  can we use those words?
[33:32.000 --> 33:34.000]  Yes, and on the other hand
[33:34.000 --> 33:36.000]  the fear generated by people
[33:36.000 --> 33:38.000]  who have died
[33:38.000 --> 33:40.000]  the guerrilla, the person who
[33:40.000 --> 33:42.000]  led all this movement
[33:42.000 --> 33:44.000]  the most dangerous one
[33:44.000 --> 33:46.000]  who has caused so much damage
[33:46.000 --> 33:48.000]  and on the other hand, what is going to happen now?
[33:48.000 --> 33:50.000]  There is going to be a revenge
[33:50.000 --> 33:52.000]  and all those feelings concentrated in Times Square
[33:52.000 --> 33:54.000]  Where they had run very close to where the towers had fallen
[33:54.000 --> 33:56.000]  Exactly, that is May
[33:56.000 --> 33:58.000]  a little later, accelerating the video
[33:58.000 --> 34:00.000]  the 10th anniversary
[34:00.000 --> 34:02.000]  of September
[34:02.000 --> 34:04.000]  again, these feelings
[34:04.000 --> 34:06.000]  these 10 years, these creatures that we have seen
[34:06.000 --> 34:08.000]  almost born
[34:08.000 --> 34:10.000]  as we know there are 1500 children
[34:10.000 --> 34:12.000]  who have become orphans
[34:12.000 --> 34:14.000]  that you have seen them grow
[34:14.000 --> 34:16.000]  from 2001 to 2011
[34:16.000 --> 34:18.000]  and they are children of 10 years
[34:18.000 --> 34:20.000]  Then comes the Occupy Wall Street movement
[34:20.000 --> 34:22.000]  Occupy Wall Street or the Indignado
[34:22.000 --> 34:24.000]  which is the movement that arises from Spain
[34:24.000 --> 34:26.000]  Exactly, that surprises you
[34:26.000 --> 34:28.000]  a weekend, 2000 people arrive
[34:28.000 --> 34:30.000]  they take the park
[34:30.000 --> 34:32.000]  a park that even for those
[34:32.000 --> 34:34.000]  who live in New York
[34:34.000 --> 34:36.000]  is relatively unknown
[34:36.000 --> 34:38.000]  that you see it there because it is next
[34:38.000 --> 34:40.000]  to the area 0 but it does not have
[34:40.000 --> 34:42.000]  greater transcendence
[34:42.000 --> 34:44.000]  What did they want? What do they want?
[34:44.000 --> 34:46.000]  It is clear what they do not like
[34:46.000 --> 34:48.000]  but what do they want?
[34:48.000 --> 34:50.000]  But I think in trying to define
[34:50.000 --> 34:52.000]  that in conventional terms
[34:52.000 --> 34:54.000]  what this movement is
[34:54.000 --> 34:56.000]  there is a failure
[34:56.000 --> 34:58.000]  and the failure is that we cannot
[34:58.000 --> 35:00.000]  suck them in a conventional way
[35:00.000 --> 35:02.000]  then they are against
[35:02.000 --> 35:04.000]  many things, especially
[35:04.000 --> 35:06.000]  the fact of politicians, how the United States works
[35:06.000 --> 35:08.000]  of course the indignation
[35:08.000 --> 35:10.000]  that they feel about
[35:10.000 --> 35:12.000]  what has happened in Wall Street
[35:12.000 --> 35:14.000]  and all the fund of investments
[35:14.000 --> 35:16.000]  and how the economy has deteriorated
[35:16.000 --> 35:18.000]  due to irresponsibility
[35:18.000 --> 35:20.000]  and this feeling I think
[35:20.000 --> 35:22.000]  that you have to give value
[35:22.000 --> 35:24.000]  it is true that they do not have it clear
[35:24.000 --> 35:26.000]  in conventional terms
[35:26.000 --> 35:28.000]  to make a political agenda
[35:28.000 --> 35:30.000]  point number 1, 2 and 3
[35:30.000 --> 35:32.000]  and I would like to take the opportunity
[35:32.000 --> 35:34.000]  to go through these demonstrations
[35:34.000 --> 35:36.000]  to what has happened in Mexico
[35:36.000 --> 35:38.000]  there were huge protests
[35:38.000 --> 35:40.000]  against the violence
[35:40.000 --> 35:42.000]  that is being experienced in Mexico
[35:42.000 --> 35:44.000]  I think one of the worst times
[35:44.000 --> 35:46.000]  that I remember in Mexico
[35:46.000 --> 35:48.000]  50,000 dead since Calderón came to power
[35:48.000 --> 35:50.000]  That's right, the strategy
[35:50.000 --> 35:52.000]  of the government that has been unleashed
[35:52.000 --> 35:54.000]  is a bloodbath
[35:54.000 --> 35:56.000]  the strategy with 50,000 dead
[35:56.000 --> 35:58.000]  where it has left thousands
[35:58.000 --> 36:00.000]  of missing people
[36:00.000 --> 36:02.000]  there are still mothers looking for their children
[36:02.000 --> 36:04.000]  their husbands, their daughters
[36:04.000 --> 36:06.000]  and they do not know where they are
[36:06.000 --> 36:08.000]  and the argument is that
[36:08.000 --> 36:10.000]  the battle of the government with the organized crime
[36:10.000 --> 36:12.000]  so that has become
[36:12.000 --> 36:14.000]  a country
[36:14.000 --> 36:16.000]  wrapped in blood
[36:16.000 --> 36:18.000]  seeing data that this year
[36:18.000 --> 36:20.000]  ended in 2008
[36:20.000 --> 36:22.000]  more than 8,000 dead
[36:22.000 --> 36:24.000]  with this strategy
[36:24.000 --> 36:26.000]  and this year that has just been finalized
[36:26.000 --> 36:28.000]  more than 25,000 dead
[36:28.000 --> 36:30.000]  tripled
[36:30.000 --> 36:32.000]  the deaths in the last three years
[36:32.000 --> 36:34.000]  What is the option?
[36:34.000 --> 36:36.000]  because the debate has been
[36:36.000 --> 36:38.000]  negotiated with the drug dealers
[36:38.000 --> 36:40.000]  or is it still with tough hands?
[36:40.000 --> 36:42.000]  The crime should be fought
[36:42.000 --> 36:44.000]  but with intelligence
[36:44.000 --> 36:46.000]  as it was done in the ETA in Spain
[36:46.000 --> 36:48.000]  as it was done in Ireland, it can be a path
[36:48.000 --> 36:50.000]  but without a doubt I think
[36:50.000 --> 36:52.000]  what the government should pose
[36:52.000 --> 36:54.000]  is unequal
[36:54.000 --> 36:56.000]  it is not possible that in Mexico in the last 30 years
[36:56.000 --> 36:58.000]  the poor are poorer and the rich are richer
[36:58.000 --> 37:00.000]  26 times richer
[37:00.000 --> 37:02.000]  the rich than the poor
[37:02.000 --> 37:04.000]  the rich earn more
[37:04.000 --> 37:06.000]  and the poor earn less
[37:06.000 --> 37:08.000]  so there are more poor, 40% of the country
[37:08.000 --> 37:10.000]  surpasses that percentage
[37:10.000 --> 37:12.000]  they are extremely poor
[37:12.000 --> 37:14.000]  you as a Mexican, how do you see it from afar?
[37:14.000 --> 37:16.000]  as I could never have imagined
[37:16.000 --> 37:18.000]  that country, I was covering
[37:18.000 --> 37:20.000]  Edgar during his vacations
[37:20.000 --> 37:22.000]  in July and August
[37:22.000 --> 37:24.000]  and suddenly I thought
[37:24.000 --> 37:26.000]  I had a hope that the politicians
[37:26.000 --> 37:28.000]  would meet with
[37:28.000 --> 37:30.000]  Cecilia Falcón
[37:30.000 --> 37:32.000]  it is considered
[37:32.000 --> 37:34.000]  the character of the year
[37:34.000 --> 37:36.000]  that speaks to you
[37:36.000 --> 37:38.000]  of the impact he has
[37:38.000 --> 37:40.000]  a man who kills his son
[37:40.000 --> 37:42.000]  is considered the man of the year in Mexico
[37:42.000 --> 37:44.000]  it was not a scientific
[37:44.000 --> 37:46.000]  what happens when they meet
[37:46.000 --> 37:48.000]  for the first time they recognize
[37:48.000 --> 37:50.000]  more of the same
[37:50.000 --> 37:52.000]  papers, names, records
[37:52.000 --> 37:54.000]  while the pain of the people
[37:54.000 --> 37:56.000]  who are part of that deadly statistic
[37:56.000 --> 37:58.000]  who recovers parents and children
[37:58.000 --> 38:00.000]  maybe the experience is in a
[38:00.000 --> 38:02.000]  return to the negotiation
[38:02.000 --> 38:04.000]  they broke the police, they broke the structures
[38:04.000 --> 38:06.000]  they sent people who are now
[38:06.000 --> 38:08.000]  with the bad, who were with the good
[38:08.000 --> 38:10.000]  that is a disaster
[38:10.000 --> 38:12.000]  we are going to do one thing
[38:12.000 --> 38:14.000]  we are going to do a commercial break
[38:14.000 --> 38:16.000]  and when we return let's see what comes for 2012
[38:16.000 --> 38:18.000]  in the United States, Mexico,
[38:18.000 --> 38:20.000]  Venezuela and the Dominican Republic
[38:20.000 --> 38:22.000]  and the visit of Pope Benedict XVI
[38:22.000 --> 38:47.000]  let's take a break and come back.
[38:52.000 --> 38:54.000]  How much do I give you?
[38:54.000 --> 39:22.000]  In La Mosa de Guadalajara
[39:22.000 --> 39:24.000]  The most fun movie of Steven Spielberg
[39:24.000 --> 39:26.000]  from the Jurassic Park
[39:26.000 --> 39:28.000]  The Avengers of Tintin
[39:28.000 --> 39:30.000]  and Real D 3D and IMAX 3D
[39:30.000 --> 39:32.000]  begins the New Year
[39:32.000 --> 39:34.000]  enjoying family
[39:34.000 --> 39:36.000]  with the fun of Teresa
[39:36.000 --> 39:38.000]  the great show of the Peques
[39:38.000 --> 39:40.000]  this New Year's night
[39:40.000 --> 39:42.000]  the lottery of the good prices
[39:42.000 --> 39:44.000]  has already arrived at the key
[39:44.000 --> 39:54.000]  with the key, all your family is going to win
[39:54.000 --> 40:22.000]  in this party Xfinity puts a spell on your gifts
[40:22.000 --> 40:26.000]  Call today at 1-800-XFINITY
[40:26.000 --> 40:28.000]  They arrived again and stronger than ever
[40:28.000 --> 40:30.000]  and that's why they are still the masters
[40:30.000 --> 40:32.000]  and they present us their new album
[40:32.000 --> 40:34.000]  of A.S.
[40:34.000 --> 40:36.000]  including their new success
[40:36.000 --> 40:38.000]  Haifi Tribal
[40:38.000 --> 40:40.000]  How I liked dancing and retrieving
[40:40.000 --> 40:42.000]  I want to be president
[40:42.000 --> 40:44.000]  I wanted to be president
[40:44.000 --> 40:46.000]  I was surprised by you
[40:46.000 --> 40:48.000]  I liked dancing
[40:48.000 --> 40:50.000]  and many more
[40:50.000 --> 40:52.000]  to the unique style of
[40:52.000 --> 40:54.000]  Los Amos
[40:54.000 --> 40:56.000]  available in all formats
[41:00.000 --> 41:02.000]  Look at that
[41:02.000 --> 41:26.000]  Get up and play with that cartel
[41:32.000 --> 41:34.000]  The charity
[41:34.000 --> 41:36.000]  Pass it on
[41:36.000 --> 41:38.000]  A message from the foundation
[41:38.000 --> 41:40.000]  for a better life
[41:44.000 --> 41:46.000]  These are the news
[41:46.000 --> 41:48.000]  to the point
[41:48.000 --> 41:50.000]  The first anti-Wall Street protest
[41:50.000 --> 41:52.000]  in 2012 left a police
[41:52.000 --> 41:54.000]  injured and a victim arrested
[41:54.000 --> 41:56.000]  in the Zuccotti Park in New York
[41:56.000 --> 41:58.000]  How about talking to Miriam as well
[41:58.000 --> 42:00.000]  and we go to the point of the news
[42:00.000 --> 42:02.000]  about the need to clean the area
[42:02.000 --> 42:04.000]  where more than 30,000 people
[42:04.000 --> 42:06.000]  were gathered to receive the new year
[42:06.000 --> 42:08.000]  For the second consecutive year
[42:08.000 --> 42:10.000]  the celebration of the end of the year
[42:10.000 --> 42:12.000]  ends with a rain of dead birds
[42:12.000 --> 42:14.000]  in a city in Arkansas
[42:14.000 --> 42:16.000]  And in Japan, a seismic of magnitude 7
[42:16.000 --> 42:18.000]  took part in Tokyo
[42:18.000 --> 42:20.000]  and caused the suspension of the train service
[42:20.000 --> 42:22.000]  for several hours
[42:22.000 --> 42:24.000]  but the victims were not reported
[42:24.000 --> 42:30.000]  to be in the hospital
[42:30.000 --> 42:32.000]  We are talking about 2011 and 2012
[42:32.000 --> 42:34.000]  but let me start with
[42:34.000 --> 42:36.000]  a conversation we had here
[42:36.000 --> 42:38.000]  that was very interesting
[42:38.000 --> 42:40.000]  You said, Blanca Rosa,
[42:40.000 --> 42:42.000]  there are reasons to be angry
[42:42.000 --> 42:44.000]  there are reasons to be frustrated and outraged
[42:44.000 --> 42:46.000]  What happens is that we were talking
[42:46.000 --> 42:48.000]  initially about Mexico
[42:48.000 --> 42:50.000]  and then we were talking about New York
[42:50.000 --> 42:52.000]  and we were talking about the whole world
[42:52.000 --> 42:54.000]  and there is a genuine reason
[42:54.000 --> 42:56.000]  in this generation
[42:56.000 --> 42:58.000]  to be angry, to be outraged
[42:58.000 --> 43:00.000]  to be outraged and really
[43:00.000 --> 43:02.000]  as a mother of a teenager
[43:02.000 --> 43:04.000]  I want to see that
[43:04.000 --> 43:06.000]  I want to see that they realize
[43:06.000 --> 43:08.000]  that the world we are leaving
[43:08.000 --> 43:10.000]  is not a better world
[43:10.000 --> 43:12.000]  and that there are reasons
[43:12.000 --> 43:14.000]  to fight for things
[43:14.000 --> 43:16.000]  There have been bad rulers
[43:16.000 --> 43:18.000]  not only in America
[43:18.000 --> 43:20.000]  but also in Europe, Greece
[43:20.000 --> 43:22.000]  Portugal, Spain
[43:22.000 --> 43:24.000]  There have been bad strategies
[43:24.000 --> 43:26.000]  to go to the countries
[43:26.000 --> 43:28.000]  therefore it is very valid
[43:28.000 --> 43:30.000]  there is a lot of reason to make sure
[43:30.000 --> 43:32.000]  that you can be outraged
[43:32.000 --> 43:34.000]  against bad executives from some countries
[43:34.000 --> 43:36.000]  so it is very important
[43:36.000 --> 43:38.000]  Look, I am going to tell you
[43:38.000 --> 43:40.000]  what we were saying a while ago
[43:40.000 --> 43:42.000]  and we are going to talk clearly
[43:42.000 --> 43:44.000]  Blanca Rosa was saying something
[43:44.000 --> 43:46.000]  with what I agree with
[43:46.000 --> 43:48.000]  and Edgar was like this
[43:48.000 --> 43:50.000]  in Wall Street
[43:50.000 --> 43:52.000]  which is what you were saying
[43:52.000 --> 43:54.000]  I tell Edgar
[43:54.000 --> 43:56.000]  that what happens in Mexico
[43:56.000 --> 43:58.000]  I prefer to think that
[43:58.000 --> 44:00.000]  it has never been seen as a stage
[44:00.000 --> 44:02.000]  because I was young in 1968
[44:02.000 --> 44:04.000]  I was a student
[44:04.000 --> 44:06.000]  I participated in the movements
[44:06.000 --> 44:08.000]  and that was a genuine protest
[44:08.000 --> 44:10.000]  that people would say
[44:10.000 --> 44:12.000]  here we are
[44:12.000 --> 44:14.000]  Mexico has been outraged
[44:14.000 --> 44:16.000]  but what I do not agree with
[44:16.000 --> 44:18.000]  is not good
[44:18.000 --> 44:20.000]  the abuse that you have committed
[44:20.000 --> 44:22.000]  but also what is the path
[44:22.000 --> 44:24.000]  you cannot stay alone in the protest
[44:24.000 --> 44:26.000]  but to the indignant
[44:26.000 --> 44:28.000]  we are demanding a very clear agenda
[44:28.000 --> 44:30.000]  with very specific points
[44:30.000 --> 44:32.000]  because we do not do the same
[44:32.000 --> 44:34.000]  with the people who govern us
[44:34.000 --> 44:36.000]  What if we talk about the people
[44:36.000 --> 44:38.000]  who govern us and who govern us
[44:38.000 --> 44:40.000]  there are elections in the United States
[44:40.000 --> 44:42.000]  Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic
[44:42.000 --> 44:44.000]  in the United States, how do you see Blanca Rosa
[44:44.000 --> 44:46.000]  it is very difficult
[44:46.000 --> 44:48.000]  if a year ago you told me
[44:48.000 --> 44:50.000]  that we are going to be
[44:50.000 --> 44:52.000]  in the situation that we are now
[44:52.000 --> 44:54.000]  I would have doubted
[44:54.000 --> 44:56.000]  and particularly there are several things
[44:56.000 --> 44:58.000]  that disturb me
[44:58.000 --> 45:00.000]  and I use the word because that is
[45:00.000 --> 45:02.000]  the adjective that must be given
[45:02.000 --> 45:04.000]  it disturbs me the fact that there is no
[45:04.000 --> 45:06.000]  a clear agenda
[45:06.000 --> 45:08.000]  that people cannot differentiate
[45:08.000 --> 45:10.000]  between what is a party
[45:10.000 --> 45:12.000]  and what the other party offers
[45:12.000 --> 45:14.000]  I am fighting
[45:14.000 --> 45:16.000]  and that the level of discussion
[45:16.000 --> 45:18.000]  is so poor
[45:18.000 --> 45:20.000]  the level of discussion is poor
[45:20.000 --> 45:22.000]  now it turns out that they leave because
[45:22.000 --> 45:24.000]  one put the horn to the woman
[45:24.000 --> 45:26.000]  and then there were four more
[45:26.000 --> 45:28.000]  and then it was not only the woman
[45:28.000 --> 45:30.000]  was the horned wife
[45:30.000 --> 45:32.000]  there were four more lovers
[45:32.000 --> 45:34.000]  that is gentlemen, the one who wants
[45:34.000 --> 45:36.000]  that this country is a liberal country
[45:36.000 --> 45:38.000]  is wrong, it is a conservative country
[45:38.000 --> 45:40.000]  that is carrying things in all directions
[45:40.000 --> 45:42.000]  according to the polls
[45:42.000 --> 45:44.000]  according to the polls
[45:44.000 --> 45:46.000]  the problem
[45:46.000 --> 45:48.000]  in this matter is that he did not
[45:48.000 --> 45:50.000]  and that is what many Hispanic voters say
[45:50.000 --> 45:52.000]  he did not fulfill his promise
[45:52.000 --> 45:54.000]  of a migratory reform
[45:54.000 --> 45:56.000]  then everything complicates that
[45:56.000 --> 45:58.000]  this is the United States in Mexico
[45:58.000 --> 46:00.000]  what is the panorama?
[46:00.000 --> 46:02.000]  today as never the institutional revolutionary party
[46:02.000 --> 46:04.000]  who ruled for more than 70 years
[46:04.000 --> 46:06.000]  Mexico has the possibility of returning to power
[46:06.000 --> 46:08.000]  after 12 years of absence
[46:08.000 --> 46:10.000]  in the last few days many isolated
[46:10.000 --> 46:12.000]  to not know how to pronounce English well
[46:12.000 --> 46:14.000]  to not know the price of the tortilla
[46:14.000 --> 46:16.000]  does not know the titles of the books
[46:16.000 --> 46:18.000]  which marks a very weak man
[46:18.000 --> 46:20.000]  of little knowledge
[46:20.000 --> 46:22.000]  and with the question of whether this man
[46:22.000 --> 46:24.000]  knows how to govern above
[46:24.000 --> 46:26.000]  of Andrés Manuel López Obrador
[46:26.000 --> 46:28.000]  who is the left candidate
[46:28.000 --> 46:30.000]  who would look for the presidency
[46:30.000 --> 46:32.000]  for the second time
[46:32.000 --> 46:34.000]  and there are the three candidates on the right
[46:34.000 --> 46:36.000]  who is the party in the government
[46:36.000 --> 46:38.000]  who have not managed to motivate
[46:38.000 --> 46:40.000]  the people and at the end of the day
[46:40.000 --> 46:42.000]  we know both in Mexico and in the United States
[46:42.000 --> 46:44.000]  an election moves by emotion
[46:44.000 --> 46:46.000]  more than by reason
[46:46.000 --> 46:48.000]  how do you see it in Mexico?
[46:48.000 --> 46:50.000]  I think in Mexico the PRI has the great possibility
[46:50.000 --> 46:52.000]  I think it must have been
[46:52.000 --> 46:54.000]  Mario Fabio Beltrone and I'm going to explain
[46:54.000 --> 46:56.000]  why? because those
[46:56.000 --> 46:58.000]  of Peña Nieto speaking English
[46:58.000 --> 47:00.000]  the daughters on Twitter
[47:00.000 --> 47:02.000]  so many things are more than the same
[47:02.000 --> 47:04.000]  the forgotten ones
[47:04.000 --> 47:06.000]  forget that they do not forget
[47:06.000 --> 47:08.000]  forget that you started
[47:08.000 --> 47:10.000]  you opened the door of the forgotten ones
[47:10.000 --> 47:12.000]  of Mr. Peña Nieto to whom I do not know
[47:12.000 --> 47:14.000]  but then what are we going to do?
[47:14.000 --> 47:16.000]  live with the Peña Nieto of the television
[47:16.000 --> 47:18.000]  to obey the politician
[47:18.000 --> 47:20.000]  to a politician who needs
[47:20.000 --> 47:22.000]  consultation, dialogue capacity
[47:22.000 --> 47:24.000]  politician as a born political animal
[47:24.000 --> 47:26.000]  or what does he have in Mexico?
[47:26.000 --> 47:28.000]  what is the other option?
[47:28.000 --> 47:30.000]  López Obrador, well, López Obrador
[47:30.000 --> 47:32.000]  now the bread, if the bread had a head
[47:32.000 --> 47:34.000]  at least to give him political play
[47:34.000 --> 47:36.000]  but there are still options
[47:36.000 --> 47:38.000]  and that could be Josefina Vázquez Motas
[47:38.000 --> 47:40.000]  despite those
[47:40.000 --> 47:42.000]  despite those mistakes
[47:42.000 --> 47:44.000]  that Peña Nieto has made
[47:44.000 --> 47:46.000]  currently 20 points above
[47:46.000 --> 47:48.000]  López Obrador which is the second
[47:48.000 --> 47:50.000]  and then still need to define the right
[47:50.000 --> 47:52.000]  but down Josefina Vázquez Motas
[47:52.000 --> 47:54.000]  I want to mention, of course, that there will be elections in Venezuela
[47:54.000 --> 47:56.000]  where six candidates of the opposition in February
[47:56.000 --> 47:58.000]  will face
[47:58.000 --> 48:00.000]  President Hugo Chávez in October
[48:00.000 --> 48:02.000]  and then in the Dominican Republic
[48:02.000 --> 48:04.000]  where there is a debate between the
[48:04.000 --> 48:06.000]  continuation that could be Danilo Medina
[48:06.000 --> 48:08.000]  who, by the way, the first lady
[48:08.000 --> 48:10.000]  the current first lady Margarita Sereño
[48:10.000 --> 48:12.000]  is launching together with
[48:12.000 --> 48:14.000]  Medina Frente, there is Polito Mejia
[48:14.000 --> 48:16.000]  which, according to some polls, goes ahead
[48:16.000 --> 48:18.000]  so Venezuela and Republic of the Dominican Republic
[48:18.000 --> 48:20.000]  are also there and then Pope Benito 16
[48:20.000 --> 48:22.000]  goes to Cuba and Mexico, Marientonito
[48:22.000 --> 48:24.000]  well, you already know me
[48:24.000 --> 48:26.000]  I know how you think
[48:26.000 --> 48:28.000]  I think
[48:28.000 --> 48:30.000]  I know you're going to throw me the rustic cavalry
[48:30.000 --> 48:32.000]  but it doesn't matter
[48:32.000 --> 48:34.000]  It doesn't matter that Pope goes to Cuba
[48:34.000 --> 48:36.000]  It doesn't matter, why?
[48:36.000 --> 48:38.000]  because if they tell me that
[48:38.000 --> 48:40.000]  nothing has been achieved with Juan Pablo II
[48:40.000 --> 48:42.000]  I can tell you who knows
[48:42.000 --> 48:44.000]  why? because if we remember
[48:44.000 --> 48:46.000]  that these are the relations of the communist state
[48:46.000 --> 48:48.000]  of the Cuban state
[48:48.000 --> 48:50.000]  with the Vatican the best because last year
[48:50.000 --> 48:52.000]  last year, in 2010
[48:52.000 --> 48:54.000]  political prisoners were released
[48:54.000 --> 48:56.000]  thanks to the mediation of the church
[48:56.000 --> 48:58.000]  we are seeing that there is a more open path
[48:58.000 --> 49:00.000]  and that it could lead to more changes
[49:00.000 --> 49:02.000]  how do you see it, Banca Rosa?
[49:02.000 --> 49:04.000]  I think it is a fascinating time
[49:04.000 --> 49:06.000]  that is happening and it seems to me
[49:06.000 --> 49:08.000]  that it can be, it can give you
[49:08.000 --> 49:10.000]  several alternatives
[49:10.000 --> 49:12.000]  the only fact that a Pope comes to a country
[49:12.000 --> 49:14.000]  obviously puts the eyes
[49:14.000 --> 49:16.000]  of everyone in that country
[49:16.000 --> 49:18.000]  but it is not Juan Pablo II either
[49:18.000 --> 49:20.000]  it is not and it will not be a visit
[49:20.000 --> 49:22.000]  sorry, this political
[49:22.000 --> 49:24.000]  that people are confused
[49:24.000 --> 49:26.000]  Maria Antonieta, the visit
[49:26.000 --> 49:28.000]  of the Pope at least in Mexico
[49:28.000 --> 49:30.000]  has always presented
[49:30.000 --> 49:32.000]  changes, the visit of the Pope
[49:32.000 --> 49:34.000]  I agree with Blanca, changes
[49:34.000 --> 49:36.000]  despite the fact that the Vatican does not have a political agenda
[49:36.000 --> 49:38.000]  does have a political repercussion
[49:38.000 --> 49:40.000]  we cannot disassociate that
[49:40.000 --> 49:42.000]  now, I don't know if it goes in question
[49:42.000 --> 49:44.000]  electoral, in the case of Mexico
[49:44.000 --> 49:46.000]  it goes from 23 to 26 of March
[49:46.000 --> 49:48.000]  it is when the political campaigns begin in Mexico
[49:48.000 --> 49:50.000]  but despite that, I do believe
[49:50.000 --> 49:52.000]  and I agree with my friend
[49:52.000 --> 49:54.000]  Maria Antonieta, the Pope brings hope
[49:54.000 --> 49:56.000]  brings a good environment, brings a new spirit
[49:56.000 --> 49:58.000]  that needs the country
[49:58.000 --> 50:00.000]  it urges that the Pope goes
[50:00.000 --> 50:02.000]  the fact that a Pope comes with the army
[50:02.000 --> 50:04.000]  of us, that we are the journalists
[50:04.000 --> 50:06.000]  gives
[50:06.000 --> 50:08.000]  notes, gives stories
[50:08.000 --> 50:10.000]  gives, especially
[50:10.000 --> 50:12.000]  search of the journalists
[50:12.000 --> 50:14.000]  to try to understand what is happening
[50:14.000 --> 50:16.000]  in that country
[50:16.000 --> 50:18.000]  because it cannot only be talking
[50:18.000 --> 50:20.000]  the Pope arrives, ok, the Pope arrives
[50:20.000 --> 50:22.000]  and nobody thinks
[50:22.000 --> 50:24.000]  what is this country
[50:24.000 --> 50:26.000]  and the only fact of doing these questions
[50:26.000 --> 50:28.000]  I think it is important for the country
[50:28.000 --> 50:30.000]  what is the Pope visiting
[50:30.000 --> 50:32.000]  and here I am going to tell you what I already have prepared for the rest of the visit
[50:32.000 --> 50:34.000]  and you will probably agree with me
[50:34.000 --> 50:36.000]  it reaches a point where Juan Pablo II did not arrive
[50:36.000 --> 50:38.000]  which is the heart of Mexico
[50:38.000 --> 50:40.000]  which is Guanajuato, which is the cradle of the war
[50:40.000 --> 50:42.000]  in the year 33
[50:42.000 --> 50:44.000]  which is the sector of the Catholics
[50:44.000 --> 50:46.000]  more beaten and more closed
[50:46.000 --> 50:48.000]  there are still the Christian
[50:48.000 --> 50:50.000]  it is a very difficult topic for the Catholic Church
[50:50.000 --> 50:52.000]  based on all the sexual abuse
[50:52.000 --> 50:54.000]  cases
[50:54.000 --> 50:56.000]  I knew I was going to go out there
[50:56.000 --> 50:58.000]  yes it is true
[50:58.000 --> 51:00.000]  for example, in Mexico
[51:00.000 --> 51:02.000]  20 years ago, 95%
[51:02.000 --> 51:04.000]  at least the official data
[51:04.000 --> 51:06.000]  were Catholic in present
[51:06.000 --> 51:08.000]  it is 83%
[51:08.000 --> 51:10.000]  the Catholic Church has lost
[51:10.000 --> 51:12.000]  faithful for different reasons
[51:12.000 --> 51:14.000]  so it is also a complicated year
[51:14.000 --> 51:16.000]  that is why the reason
[51:16.000 --> 51:18.000]  Dicto XVI goes to the heart
[51:18.000 --> 51:20.000]  to the most conservative place
[51:20.000 --> 51:22.000]  of the country, which is Guanajuato
[51:22.000 --> 51:24.000]  which is the cradle where the Christ is the king
[51:24.000 --> 51:26.000]  but it is also the fact that
[51:26.000 --> 51:28.000]  these circumstances come
[51:28.000 --> 51:30.000]  but not only that there are less
[51:30.000 --> 51:32.000]  Catholics in Latin America
[51:32.000 --> 51:34.000]  but there are other religions
[51:34.000 --> 51:36.000]  that have advanced to very
[51:36.000 --> 51:38.000]  very accelerated steps
[51:38.000 --> 51:40.000]  I thank you, it took us a long time
[51:40.000 --> 51:42.000]  but we continue to trade
[51:42.000 --> 51:44.000]  you know that we are going to work a lot
[51:44.000 --> 51:46.000]  and we will have to tell you
[51:46.000 --> 51:48.000]  happy New Year
[51:48.000 --> 51:50.000]  we are going to take a break
[51:50.000 --> 51:52.000]  and we will return after the trade
[51:52.000 --> 51:54.000]  if you only have three words
[51:54.000 --> 51:56.000]  to explain how the year 2012 comes
[51:56.000 --> 51:58.000]  what would you say
[51:58.000 --> 52:00.000]  we asked several of our friends
[52:00.000 --> 52:02.000]  from a division that told us
[52:02.000 --> 52:04.000]  in three words exactly how they see 2012
[52:04.000 --> 52:06.000]  and we will meet them
[52:06.000 --> 52:16.000]  when we come back
[52:36.000 --> 52:38.000]  the two thousand and eleven
[52:38.000 --> 52:38.000]  in the boxing
[52:38.000 --> 52:40.000]  the games between Barça and Madrid
[52:40.000 --> 52:42.000]  of the two thousand and eleven
[52:42.000 --> 52:44.000]  in everything that happened in our bar
[52:44.000 --> 52:46.000]  everyone is invited to the Republic of Sport
[52:46.000 --> 53:12.000]  on Sunday
[53:12.000 --> 53:22.000]  on Sunday
[53:22.000 --> 53:32.000]  on Sunday
[53:32.000 --> 53:40.000]  on Sunday
[53:40.000 --> 53:50.000]  on Sunday
[53:50.000 --> 53:54.000]  on Sunday
[53:54.000 --> 54:04.000]  on Sunday
[54:04.000 --> 54:08.800]  THE LORD OF THE SKIES
[54:34.000 --> 54:56.000]  THE LORD OF THE SKIES
[55:05.000 --> 55:09.000]  Paulina Rubio presents his new album, Brava.
[55:10.000 --> 55:13.000]  I included the number one international.
[55:13.000 --> 55:14.000]  I like it so much.
[55:14.000 --> 55:16.000]  With English and Spanish songs.
[55:16.000 --> 55:19.000]  Brava is the best album for the dance tracks.
[55:21.000 --> 55:22.000]  Brava by Paulina Rubio.
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[55:31.000 --> 55:33.000]  Always accompanied by your loved ones.
[55:33.000 --> 55:37.000]  And that these blessings will be spread throughout the next 12 months.
[55:37.000 --> 55:39.000]  These are the wishes of your friend Alejandro Mendoza.
[55:39.000 --> 55:41.000]  Congratulations!
[55:41.000 --> 55:45.000]  For many Latin families, the situation can change without warning.
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[55:55.000 --> 56:00.000]  THE LORD OF THE SKIES
[56:00.000 --> 56:05.000]  Our new segment, Your Point, has been extremely successful and popular in three words.
[56:05.000 --> 56:26.000]  Today we present what our friends from Univision think will happen in 2012 in just three words.
[58:05.000 --> 58:14.000]  You can change everything, if you wish
[58:14.000 --> 58:24.000]  There are a thousand ways to embrace the freedom of the heart
[58:24.000 --> 58:30.000]  In our hands we have a giant country
[58:30.000 --> 58:37.000]  That always looks forward with the same plans to start
[58:37.000 --> 58:43.000]  In our hands there is a future that unites us
[58:43.000 --> 58:49.000]  And with the heart it discovers that all the hands can change
[58:49.000 --> 58:55.000]  In our hands, the line of the future lives
[58:55.000 --> 59:06.000]  Sometimes when it is good to see a little more beyond our hearts
[59:09.000 --> 59:11.000]  Your Point, in three words, touches me.
[59:11.000 --> 59:16.000]  You have heard that the world is going to end, according to the Mayan calendar and those talks you would have.
[59:16.000 --> 59:23.000]  So, what I think for 2012 and those things is that nothing happens.
[59:23.000 --> 59:25.000]  Thank you for being with us.
[59:25.000 --> 59:29.000]  Until next week, when we are together, let's go to the point.
[59:29.000 --> 59:54.000]  Thank you.
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