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[00:00.000 --> 00:07.000]  So there is a problem, I think we will have to, let's say, return their debt.
[00:07.000 --> 00:14.000]  A few weeks ago, Mr. Colonel, you were in Washington and had a conversation with representatives of the American administration.
[00:14.000 --> 00:25.000]  During this period, during two or three weeks, the words are very actively discussed, as well as the observation of the Russian authorities on the possibility of using nuclear weapons.
[00:25.000 --> 00:36.000]  They talk about some kind of Poseidon, they talk about a nuclear train that is moving in some direction, somewhere, it is not clear where, in which steppes.
[00:36.000 --> 00:47.000]  How do you assess the possibility of using Putin's tactical nuclear weapons in the territories that he has now declared Russian?
[00:47.000 --> 00:58.000]  I generally think that we should consider Putin's use of nuclear weapons as a reality.
[00:58.000 --> 01:10.000]  What conditions will it be in, what will they tell him about it, who will do it, whether we can prevent it or not, this is a different matter.
[01:10.000 --> 01:24.000]  But what they think about it and now it lies on the scales of how we are advancing, what consequences will be from the fact that we will liberate the territories, what they are discussing is a fact.
[01:24.000 --> 01:33.000]  This is what our special services and Western special services are talking about, so we must understand that this can happen.
[01:33.000 --> 01:40.000]  And our task is not to allow this, but as a reality we must accept that it can happen.
[01:40.000 --> 01:52.000]  Whether it will be in the territories that we liberate, it is more likely, what decision will be made, few people know, I am sure that even Putin does not know yet.
[01:52.000 --> 01:57.000]  But the fact that it lies on the scales when making such decisions is a fact.
[01:57.000 --> 02:17.000]  Again about Putin, today he, as I have already said, talked to the press and representatives of the public and told how he loves Ukrainians, Ukrainian language, Ukrainian culture and how he will generally treat the culture of neighboring countries.
[02:17.000 --> 02:20.000]  Let's hear Putin.
[02:20.000 --> 02:32.000]  We have always, despite the tragedy of today, with great respect to the Ukrainian people, Ukrainian culture, Ukrainian language, literature and so on.
[02:32.000 --> 02:40.000]  But we have never allowed anything that is allowed in Ukraine in relation to Russian culture and Russian language.
[02:40.000 --> 02:46.000]  But we will go our own way, we will treat all Ukrainian with respect.
[02:46.000 --> 02:58.000]  We have 3 million citizens of Russia of Ukrainian origin and we are not going to make any difference between Russians and Ukrainians.
[02:58.000 --> 03:11.000]  And this man, on the eve of the Great War, a large-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine, told about the fact that there were no Ukrainians, that Ukraine was invented by Lenin and the Ukrainians by Count Potocki.
[03:11.000 --> 03:21.000]  Why, Mr. Colonel, in your opinion, has the rhetoric of Putin changed significantly over the past 7 months?
[03:21.000 --> 03:29.000]  It sounds like, you know, we will destroy you as a people with respect.
[03:29.000 --> 03:41.000]  It has changed very seriously, because they destroyed us without respect, and we forced them to respect us. You know, fear means respect, there is such an old saying.
[03:41.000 --> 03:51.000]  And it has changed, we, the Ukrainian people, forced them to change this vision, in particular, the rhetoric. And you will see, it will change even more.
[03:51.000 --> 04:01.000]  And in the end, they will no longer think about how to destroy us, but about how to make peace with us and get out of the water with less losses than they will have.
[04:01.000 --> 04:09.000]  Because, once again, we have something to fight for, and we do it with pride, because we understand that we are waiting for the future.
[04:09.000 --> 04:21.000]  And they are fighting, not knowing that they are waiting for the future, they are fighting for some kind of ignorance, realizing that every day they will climb into such a hole, from which not a single generation will need to get out.
[04:21.000 --> 04:33.000]  Because our victory will be our victory, and this is the future, our light. In them, even some small victories, every day they only lower them even deeper into the pit.
[04:33.000 --> 04:43.000]  Thank you, Mr. Colonel, for your participation in the program. This was Roman Kostenko, Colonel of the Security Service of Ukraine, the People's Deputy of Ukraine, who is now fighting on the southern front.
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[05:19.000 --> 05:25.000]  We are in touch with Oleksandr Khara, an expert on foreign and security policy at the Center for Defense Strategies.
[05:25.000 --> 05:31.000]  Welcome, Mr. Oleksandr, good afternoon, good health to you, thank you for joining our broadcast.
[05:37.000 --> 05:39.000]  Mr. Oleksandr, can you hear us?
[05:39.000 --> 05:41.000]  Yes, I can hear you, good afternoon.
[05:41.000 --> 06:01.000]  I am glad to welcome you to our broadcast. Let's start our conversation with today's events. On October 5, Russian President Putin approved the ratification of so-called agreements that require the annexation of the occupied territories of Ukraine in the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhia regions.
[06:01.000 --> 06:17.000]  Based on these laws, changes will be made to the Constitution of Russia. On September 30, there was a great reaction in the world regarding these agreements and the so-called unification.
[06:17.000 --> 06:25.000]  In your opinion, was the reaction of the world to the annexation of Ukrainian territories by the Russians sufficient?
[06:25.000 --> 06:37.000]  Well, taking into account the fact that they are still occupied, that our war for the liberation of our territories continues, it can certainly be seen that the reaction is insufficient.
[06:37.000 --> 06:45.000]  On the other hand, we must understand that we are fighting with the largest nuclear power in the world and the largest military power in the world.
[06:45.000 --> 06:55.000]  Yes, our armed forces are lower, but still, the human potential, the iron they have, of course, gives them the opportunity to continue this war.
[06:55.000 --> 07:05.000]  In fact, we have to look at everything realistically. We have, of course, successes and, of course, what to be proud of.
[07:05.000 --> 07:15.000]  On the other hand, we can argue with the Russians, for example, that they do not know in what borders they have accepted these pseudo-creatures,
[07:15.000 --> 07:24.000]  since, of course, since the moment this annexation was announced, our armed forces have liberated a number of settlements.
[07:24.000 --> 07:34.000]  I will hope that while their so-called Constitutional Court will consider something there, then in fact there will be nothing to consider, these territories will be liberated.
[07:34.000 --> 07:41.000]  The most important thing is, of course, that this illegal annexation was condemned, this farce.
[07:41.000 --> 07:53.000]  You know, in fact, we sometimes play on the side, well, let's say, we pour water on the Russian mold when we say a pseudo-referendum or such a false referendum.
[07:53.000 --> 08:01.000]  What happened in our occupied territories, in principle, cannot be called in this way, because this word presupposes something different.
[08:01.000 --> 08:09.000]  And, in fact, if they say it is falsified, it should be taken into account that it may be partial, but it should have some basis, that is, it is one part.
[08:09.000 --> 08:15.000]  But in any case, the entire civilized world has abandoned the annexation of our territory.
[08:15.000 --> 08:23.000]  Unfortunately, in the UN Security Council, thanks to the Russian VETA, there was no vote condemning the resolution.
[08:23.000 --> 08:31.000]  Unfortunately, among those who supported and did not support the territorial integrity of Ukraine were such countries as India and China.
[08:31.000 --> 08:40.000]  And this, by the way, is an extremely important fact, because these countries say that they are supporters of international law and sovereign territorial integrity is important for them, especially for China,
[08:40.000 --> 08:47.000]  because it considers Taiwan an integral part and an internal matter of returning Taiwan to its native harbor.
[08:47.000 --> 08:50.000]  It is a pity that the Chinese did this.
[08:50.000 --> 09:00.000]  Next, the world reacted by imposing sanctions on employees, companies, and the United States in general.
[09:00.000 --> 09:05.000]  Almost all so-called deputies were included in their list.
[09:05.000 --> 09:14.000]  And also, what has never happened before, in fact, families, wives, children, the largest number of high-ranking officials in the Russian Federation.
[09:14.000 --> 09:25.000]  Well, of course, we need all this not only to record this moment, but most importantly, so that we can use it later, including in courts,
[09:25.000 --> 09:30.000]  because there are facts of indignation, and it will be easier for us to do.
[09:30.000 --> 09:44.000]  Well, of course, we have a much better situation than in the Baltic states, which were annexed in 1940 and were, in fact, in captivity of the Soviet Union until the end of the 1980s.
[09:44.000 --> 09:50.000]  We have a chance to liberate these territories, and we see the readiness of our partners.
[09:50.000 --> 10:05.000]  First of all, from the United States, the latest announcement of 625 billion dollars in aid, and before that, literally a week ago, 1.1 billion dollars in arms.
[10:05.000 --> 10:11.000]  That is, there is a desire to help us liberate the territories, and there is political agreement on this.
[10:11.000 --> 10:23.000]  Well, thank God that the Europeans are in the same line, and in particular about the Germans, because the Germans do not recognize this invasion of Ukrainian territory and are ready to support Ukraine.
[10:23.000 --> 10:27.000]  I really like this formula as much as necessary.
[10:27.000 --> 10:37.000]  In fact, the world reacted as it reacted, but we have all the tools to correct this, let's say, historical injustice.
[10:37.000 --> 10:47.000]  Volodymyr Zelenskyy spoke with the President of the United States of America Joseph Biden. They discussed military and financial aid. Let's hear Zelenskyy.
[10:50.000 --> 10:53.000]  And in the evening I spoke with the President of the United States Biden.
[10:53.000 --> 11:00.000]  First of all, I thanked him for the regular package of defense support for our country, in particular for the new Heimers.
[11:00.000 --> 11:07.000]  Of course, we discussed key aspects of our cooperation outside the defense sphere with President Biden.
[11:07.000 --> 11:14.000]  In particular, financial support, in particular, for a package of support of more than 12 billion dollars.
[11:14.000 --> 11:19.000]  We discussed political steps, cooperation in international organizations.
[11:19.000 --> 11:27.000]  I was especially pleased to hear President Biden's words that our soldiers inspire the whole world, our people inspire the whole world.
[11:27.000 --> 11:37.000]  And this is really so. Our victory in this war will show how much Ukraine can give the global power of freedom, the global power of democracy.
[11:37.000 --> 11:50.000]  By the way, the Heimers, which Zelenskyy mentions, they come to Ukraine and allow Ukrainian troops to attack targets, in particular in the Crimea.
[11:50.000 --> 12:03.000]  At a briefing in the Pentagon, the deputy assistant to the Secretary of Defense of the United States of America in the affairs of Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, Laura Cooper, said that the Crimea is a Ukrainian territory.
[12:03.000 --> 12:13.000]  And the Pentagon also stated that the United States of America considers the Soviet and non-Western tanks to be a worthy transfer of Ukraine.
[12:13.000 --> 12:25.000]  What the Pentagon says is that we are not against the Heimers systems attacking the targets in the Crimea, which belong to Ukraine.
[12:25.000 --> 12:45.000]  President Biden immediately reacted to this phrase. He said that this means that Washington is somehow involved in what is happening in Ukraine, and that this is a war of the Russian Federation against the United States of America.
[12:45.000 --> 12:54.000]  How do you interpret the fact that Ukraine can use American weapons, in particular the Heimers, to return Crimea home?
[12:54.000 --> 13:04.000]  Well, first of all, Article 51 of the UN Statute says that each country has the right to self-defense within the framework of international law.
[13:04.000 --> 13:11.000]  But, of course, there is also the Constitution of the Law on the Defense of Ukraine and the Internal Law. This is the first point.
[13:11.000 --> 13:21.000]  The second point is that there are certain conditions for the use of American weapons against Russian targets.
[13:21.000 --> 13:27.000]  And, above all, it should be taken into account only on the territory of the Russian Federation, because Crimea is not the Russian Federation.
[13:27.000 --> 13:35.000]  Only 10 friends of friends, such as Armenia, Belarus, North Korea, recognized Crimea as Russian.
[13:35.000 --> 13:45.000]  Therefore, of course, from the point of view of the approaches of Washington and, in principle, the Europeans, this is our territory, we have the full right to use any weapon.
[13:45.000 --> 13:53.000]  The fact that the Russians say that they are fighting here with the United States, that they are part of the conflict, of course, is obvious.
[13:53.000 --> 13:56.000]  But there are several aspects to it.
[13:56.000 --> 14:12.000]  Well, first of all, of course, it is difficult for the Russians to recognize that a country that does not exist, with a nation that does not exist, and an army that does not exist, has lost its greatest defeat in the last 50-70 years.
[14:12.000 --> 14:18.000]  And, of course, they are trying to show that they are fighting with a more powerful enemy in their understanding.
[14:18.000 --> 14:20.000]  The second point is internal mobilization.
[14:20.000 --> 14:28.000]  You see, if we had not started this war, the NATO bases would have been in Ukraine, and then they would have bombed Voronezh, roughly speaking.
[14:28.000 --> 14:30.000]  This is also important.
[14:30.000 --> 14:42.000]  The third and most important, from the point of view of real policy, is an attempt to hold back our Western partners in giving us weapons in general and the new ones that were given to us for that type of weapon.
[14:42.000 --> 14:48.000]  Well, first of all, we are talking about tanks, aviation, and operational-tactical missiles.
[14:48.000 --> 14:59.000]  Unfortunately, unlike the Pentagon, unlike American diplomats, the head of the National Security Council of the United States thinks that Russia should not be provoked.
[14:59.000 --> 15:07.000]  Therefore, it is necessary to give those weapons that will not give Ukraine the opportunity to hit the targets in the depths of the Russian territory.
[15:07.000 --> 15:09.000]  In fact, this is a holding factor.
[15:09.000 --> 15:13.000]  But as for Crimea, there are no restrictions, this is absolutely normal.
[15:13.000 --> 15:22.000]  And from the point of view of strategic calculations, I am not saying from the point of view of legitimacy and morality, let's say, to do this.
[15:22.000 --> 15:38.000]  Mr. Oleksandr, on September 30, when in the Georgian hall of the Kremlin there was a brawl over the participation of Putin and his henchmen, in fact, what we were all waiting for happened.
[15:38.000 --> 15:54.000]  Volodymyr Zelenskyy, together with the head of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and the Prime Minister of Ukraine, signed an application or submitted an application for an accelerated membership in the North Atlantic Alliance.
[15:54.000 --> 16:03.000]  Today, nine countries of Eastern and Central Europe have declared that they support Ukraine's entry into NATO, plus Canada.
[16:03.000 --> 16:09.000]  Why do other countries remain silent or speak very cautiously now about this?
[16:09.000 --> 16:20.000]  Well, of course, here again the question of the fact that the Russian Federation is a nuclear power and we are in the state of conflict with this state and there are occupied territories.
[16:20.000 --> 16:23.000]  We have counter-arguments for all these arguments.
[16:23.000 --> 16:31.000]  For example, when in 1955 a part of its territory was occupied by a member of NATO, in fact, the DNA of that time was occupied.
[16:31.000 --> 16:33.000]  This is the first point.
[16:33.000 --> 16:44.000]  The second point is that when they tell us that we are not so democratic and other things, let's look at some of the countries that are now, and there is a question about democracy.
[16:44.000 --> 16:47.000]  I'm not talking about the 50s and 60s.
[16:47.000 --> 16:58.000]  Well, imagine when they took Greece and Turkey, in what state of democracy they were there, because they remember these black colonels and other things.
[16:58.000 --> 17:11.000]  As for incompatibility or incomplete compatibility, I think that what our armed forces have shown, the ability to destroy, let's say, the one who was perceived by potential opponents as extremely powerful,
[17:11.000 --> 17:18.000]  I think this is a good assessment of our ability to actually be a contributor to European security.
[17:18.000 --> 17:32.000]  And, by the way, we have to say that we are reducing the possibility of Russia's aggression against other NATO member states on the European continent,
[17:32.000 --> 17:37.000]  because, of course, it is already a defeat for Russia.
[17:37.000 --> 17:41.000]  I don't want to be too optimistic, but that's how it is in the strategic perspective.
[17:41.000 --> 17:48.000]  Of course, there are those countries that cannot overcome their internal, I would say, psychological barriers.
[17:48.000 --> 17:50.000]  First of all, these are the Germans.
[17:50.000 --> 17:56.000]  We have to defeat them, of course, because they have already taken a big step forward, they have begun to supply.
[17:56.000 --> 18:02.000]  Social Democrats have decided to supply weapons of lethal offensive to Ukraine.
[18:02.000 --> 18:12.000]  In addition, in fact, Christian Democrats, who were more, let's say, militant, if you can say so about the Germans, they did not supply us with any ammunition.
[18:12.000 --> 18:22.000]  That is, it was a crazy progress, a crazy progress of 100 billion dollars that Germany is going to spend on the modernization of its armed forces.
[18:22.000 --> 18:24.000]  But there are certain nuances.
[18:24.000 --> 18:32.000]  For example, those that, let's say, I don't like, the fact that they put themselves in Russia as if they have a right to a second world war,
[18:32.000 --> 18:37.000]  not for Ukraine and Belarus, about which they have committed the most crimes, but for the Russians.
[18:37.000 --> 18:39.000]  This, of course, has to change.
[18:39.000 --> 18:50.000]  Next, it is, of course, what they say now about the fact that Russia should not win, but so far they do not say that Ukraine should win.
[18:50.000 --> 19:04.000]  They are afraid of these escalations, and, of course, all these nuclear games directed at them, Putin, or Poseidon, or some kind of 12th Department of Defense.
[19:04.000 --> 19:08.000]  That is, all these things are messages, in fact, primarily to the Germans.
[19:08.000 --> 19:11.000]  But so far, more or less normal things are happening.
[19:11.000 --> 19:23.000]  But, of course, we have Hungary, a complex partner, a neighbor who deserves to teach them, roughly speaking, or read a lesson to these people,
[19:23.000 --> 19:30.000]  of course, that they act very badly for Ukraine and, in fact, for other NATO members.
[19:30.000 --> 19:37.000]  But the most important thing is that there are sympathies of Ukraine, there is an understanding that Ukraine is an important, important factor of European security.
[19:37.000 --> 19:51.000]  And I think it is clear that in the concept of Europe in peace, freedom and prosperity, it cannot be realized if Ukraine is not part of this space of freedom, democracy and security.
[19:51.000 --> 19:57.000]  I would say that there should be Belarus, Moldova and Georgia, but so far it is less relevant.
[19:57.000 --> 20:08.000]  So we have time, I do not believe in the speed of Ukraine's entry into NATO, but it will be much faster than they think in Berlin or other capitals.
[20:08.000 --> 20:19.000]  By the way, a Russian ambassador to the United States of America said that there is a danger of direct contact between Russia and the West.
[20:19.000 --> 20:30.000]  The decision of the United States of America to send more military aid to Ukraine will increase the danger of direct military contact between Russia and the West, said Antonov.
[20:30.000 --> 20:39.000]  At the same time, you mentioned this weapon that Russia constantly announces, and that this message is directed at the Germans,
[20:39.000 --> 20:54.000]  because the Germans themselves once spoke about this mega weapon in 1943, the Wunderwaffe, some kind of mega weapon that can save Hitler from defeat.
[20:54.000 --> 21:13.000]  When we talk about 1943-2022, is it correct to compare the situation in which Hitler, who had already begun to be beaten, and Putin, who had also begun to be beaten in the east and south of Ukraine?
[21:13.000 --> 21:31.000]  Well, you know, these historical analogies are very convenient, and we can say about Putin as about Hitler, because he actually committed the whole list of crimes that took place in the Nuremberg process and then in international conventions.
[21:31.000 --> 21:43.000]  But I would say from a Russian point of view, for him, the collapse of the Soviet Union was the biggest geopolitical disaster, as he says.
[21:43.000 --> 21:51.000]  And in his opinion, the weakness of the Soviet political elites and the KGB in which he served was the most important thing.
[21:51.000 --> 22:04.000]  They have to be powerful, tough, and that is why we see the collapse of the KGB in the Russian Federation, especially after 2014, and especially even more after February 24 this year.
[22:04.000 --> 22:09.000]  That is, it is preparing for the scenario of 1991.
[22:09.000 --> 22:27.000]  In fact, the Russian Federation lost the First World War, and then the revolutions began, and then the government changed, and even more demons came than before.
[22:27.000 --> 22:38.000]  In fact, it seems to me that this is in our favor, because they are just preparing and trying to cure a disease that does not exist, and in fact they get something else.
[22:38.000 --> 22:56.000]  In addition, since 2017, in the Russian Federation there are no powerful forces that could lead this protest movement and propose some kind of daily order, if not some new ideology of communism or, I don't know, capitalism,
[22:56.000 --> 22:59.000]  then at least something that could organize.
[22:59.000 --> 23:03.000]  That is, there is no organized minority of Bolsheviks in Russia.
[23:03.000 --> 23:11.000]  That is why, most likely, it will be scattered on the seams of, first of all, regional, and also ethnic.
[23:11.000 --> 23:19.000]  Today, Mr. Kadyrov, the most important tiktoker of the Russian Federation, was awarded the title of colonel-general.
[23:19.000 --> 23:37.000]  It shows how the same Gorkin, the hero, well, by the way, this is also an interesting personality, the first Minister of Defense of the so-called DPR, the miners and commanders of Ukrainian independence wanted so much that they called this person to themselves.
[23:37.000 --> 23:50.000]  In fact, such things will happen, most likely it will be conflicts on the regional principle, and, of course, there is already a certain dissatisfaction with the ethnic principle.
[23:50.000 --> 24:04.000]  We saw in the same Dagestan how they accept this so-called partial mobilization, since there are white people who do not fight, do not call to die for the Führer of the Russian world.
[24:04.000 --> 24:12.000]  And there are all others, and it seems to me that it was a big mistake, well, his mistake was in general on the Ukrainian attack, that's why it is.
[24:12.000 --> 24:24.000]  And this so-called partial mobilization, it defeats the Russian economy, and most importantly, it will crush this layer of the population, otherwise you will not call, because they are not citizens,
[24:24.000 --> 24:36.000]  who were ready to rejoice in all these victories, annexation of the Crimea, the support of the pseudo-creatives of Donetsk and Luhansk, and now they need blood to pay for this, for this show.
[24:36.000 --> 24:45.000]  And, of course, these are different conditions of the contract, if you are on the couch, if you are in the trench, and, of course, it speeds up the collapse of this system.
[24:45.000 --> 24:57.000]  And most importantly, I think that these are one or two successful operations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, well, I think there is a very reliable news from our southern front,
[24:57.000 --> 25:11.000]  if it is possible to neutralize, destroy or encircle a large group of Russian troops near us, or, in general, they will have to leave, leaving at least the Crimea behind.
[25:11.000 --> 25:22.000]  That is, this is a sacral thing. So, in fact, I think we see, we live in a very interesting time, historical, and we have to defeat this Khmer of the Russian world.
[25:22.000 --> 25:30.000]  Here you mentioned the Khmer of the Russian world Ramzan Kadyrov, who today was awarded the title of Colonel General.
[25:30.000 --> 25:37.000]  In the media there were such advertising videos about the heroic sons of Kadyrov, who are ready to go to war.
[25:37.000 --> 25:44.000]  And at the end of this video there is a hint that Kadyrov would like to become a shaykh. Let's see.
[25:47.000 --> 25:57.000]  For the victory, you have to pay with the blood of the patriots. Not those who sit in the cabinets in the heat, but those who are ready to fight themselves and even send their children to defend their homeland.
[25:57.000 --> 26:08.000]  So, Akhmad Eli and Adam Kadyrov will show themselves in battle. Who else sent their sons to war? Maybe Peskov? No. Rogozin? No. Patrushev?
[26:08.000 --> 26:17.000]  Only people like Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov should lead the army of Russia. Only in this way will we win. For the victory, Akhmad is strong.
[26:17.000 --> 26:40.000]  Mr. Oleksandr, as far as I understand, Putin is betting on Kadyrov's Yastrub, and already Shoygu and Patrushev, as in the view of those Yastrubs who started this great war in February 2022, have actually already died out. Am I right?
[26:40.000 --> 26:55.000]  Well, I don't think he is betting on anyone. He is playing, and we have seen it in our example, by the way. Remember, Lenid Danilovych also played with favorites, but in fact he tried them and used them.
[26:55.000 --> 27:19.000]  Of course, Putin is such a political monster, who is cynical and will try to stay in power. It was all his fault that things went wrong, and not that he actually accepted Ukraine as a non-existent state and planned an absolutely reckless, adventurous military operation.
[27:19.000 --> 27:34.000]  By the way, the head of the Foreign Intelligence Service, by the way, was probably the one who understood what the hell Russia was getting into. Do you remember the meeting of the National Security Council of the Russian Federation?
[27:34.000 --> 27:44.000]  Therefore, I do not think that he is such a figure. He is an unacceptable figure for a large number of Russians. I think that even in the North Caucasus he is not an acceptable figure.
[27:44.000 --> 27:59.000]  It's just that now he is a favorite, he has these cuts in his head. But in fact, well, look, they are all, in fact, the public meat. They don't have heavy weapons, I'm not talking about aviation, rocket things.
[27:59.000 --> 28:10.000]  In this sense, the Russian Federation and the armed forces, which are controlled by the special services, they can destroy all this military tiktok very quickly.
[28:10.000 --> 28:25.000]  Well, let's see. I think that now there are more chances for someone to shorten Mr. Putin's life. It seems to me that it is already clear that they are heading for defeat.
[28:25.000 --> 28:40.000]  It is clear that they, let's say, are a laughing stock for the whole world and not only for Ukrainians. And, in fact, among these so-called Yastrubs, there may already be such thoughts and lunatics.
[28:40.000 --> 28:49.000]  Another question is that it is difficult to organize this. Another question is that there is a certain thing that is hidden from all Russians, and in particular those who sit in the Kremlin.
[28:49.000 --> 28:55.000]  This is a total distrust of the horizontal. It is different, by the way, from the Ukrainians, and this is our strong side.
[28:55.000 --> 29:05.000]  That is why there cannot be such a wide-scale confusion. But the Yastrubs, which are in the encirclement of Putin, they understand that it leads to the catastrophe of the Russian Federation.
[29:05.000 --> 29:21.000]  And maybe, I hope, of course, we cannot consider it a part of the strategy, but it seems to me that such a small chance, more precisely, this chance has increased. However, on the background of this threat of the use of nuclear weapons, which will not be in favor of the Russian Federation,
[29:21.000 --> 29:31.000]  there are a large number of explanations as moral, although they are not moral, but the most important are those that are called in the realm of real politics.
[29:31.000 --> 29:40.000]  Thank you, Mr. Oleksandr, for the conversation. This was Oleksandr Khar, an expert on the issues of foreign and security policy of the Center for Defense Strategies.
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[29:49.000 --> 30:04.000]  I say goodbye to you until tomorrow. Tomorrow we will have a guest, General-Major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Serhiy Kryvonos. We will talk about the situation on the front line, about the threat, we will hear Putin's reaction to the threat.
[30:04.000 --> 30:19.000]  In a word, it will be interesting. Don't miss it at 17.00. I wish you good health. Goodbye.
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